Obama Trying To Collapse The System

Posted on October 29, 2009 by itooktheredpill

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12 Responses to Obama Trying To Collapse The System

Lee says:

October 29, 2009 at 2:10 am

Yep.He signed the hate bill into law yesterday killing free speech.He declared a nat emgcy last Friday in time for 2nd wave of lab created H1Ni virus reportedly closing hundreds of schools as of this week– http://lasttrumpetnewsletter.org/2009/11_09.html
Ryan says:

October 29, 2009 at 3:24 pm

Did you just say “lab created”? Dude, if you’re going to create something in a lab to hurt people, would you really start with something like the flu? With the increased amount of people getting vaccinated this year, the flu (both H1N1 and seasonal) is no track to actually kill less people in total than in a normal year.

So, in summary, you’re an idiot.
itooktheredpill says:

October 29, 2009 at 7:43 pm

no [sic.] track to actually kill less people in total than in a normal year.

So, in summary, you’re an idiot.

1) Stop the ad hominem attacks. Attack the argument, not the person.

2) The vaccine could very well end up being worse than not getting the vaccine.

3) If the flu is on track to “actually kill less people in total than in a normal year”, then why did Obama declare a National Emergency?

4) The makers of The Matrix seem to have been pretty prophetic about 9/11/2001 when they put this image in their 1999 movie. Have you seen V for Vandetta? It was made by the same people. What if the deaths described in that movie (from injections mandated by the government) are prophetic, too? There are people in this who believe so strongly in killing 93% of the human population that they literally carved it in stone.
Aaron says:

October 30, 2009 at 8:07 pm

Ryan has a correct point, but not in the correct way.

The H1N1 flu has been found to kill fewer victims than the regular flu, but that has less to do with increased vaccinations and more to do with it not being worse than the “regular” flu.

Personally, I don’t even get the seasonal vaccine anymore, as out of seven times I was required to get it in the service, I still got the flu five times. Further, when I asked a military med tech about it while receiving the nasal spray vac (thanks…cheapskates) he told me that each year, pharm labs choose the three most prominent flu strains of the season and include them in the vac. He also told me that those three were picked out of over 100 possible strains of the Flu virus.

I find it near pointless to get a flu vac that does nothing for the other 97 strains. It’s just a waste of my time and money (or tax money when I was still in the service).

The point of Obama’s action to call a nat’l emergency for a threat less threatening than the seasonal flu does raise question, though.

As for the Matrix image, I think that was mere coincidence, especially when it was written, filmed, edited, produced, etc… in 1998 (films spend an average of 15 months production time before release) A full three years prior to the WTC attacks. Also, I don’t see too many people dissecting and analyzing box-office flops, looking for equally cryptic possible clues. Unless someone has done so to the Dungeons and Dragons movie (made by the same brothers) and I’m just not aware of it.
Jonah says:

October 31, 2009 at 10:31 am

4) The makers of The Matrix seem to have been pretty prophetic about 9/11/2001 when they put this image in their 1999 movie. Have you seen V for Vandetta? It was made by the same people. What if the deaths described in that movie (from injections mandated by the government) are prophetic, too? There are people in this who believe so strongly in killing 93% of the human population that they literally carved it in stone.

I hope we can all stand back for a moment and admire this paragraph, because it’s easily the most absurd thing Red has ever posted.

Anyway, I look forward to your upcoming analysis of Speed Racer as a prescient allegory on the public option.
Ryan says:

October 31, 2009 at 9:12 pm

The vaccine could very well end up being worse than not getting the vaccine.

How?

then why did Obama declare a National Emergency?

I don’t know, ask him. Sounds like overkill to me.

I stand by my statement that he is an idiot. He speculated that the government created H1N1. He has no evidence of that, and it’s stupid. I’d say the same thing about your Matrix prophesy speculation, but I’m sure you’re joking.

I don’t usually get flu vaccines, since they don’t always work anyways. The only year I got he shot, I got the flu. This one is different. Just about everyone who has the flu (at least in my city) has tested positive for H1N1. It’s a perfect time for a widespread vaccine.
Sally HIll says:

November 2, 2009 at 5:03 pm

” He speculated that the government created H1N1. He has no evidence of that, ” – and you have proof/evidence otherwise?

How can you trust your government so blindly when they do nothing but lie to you and spend your money with no end in sight?

So, if Obama told you that banging your head against the wall for 30 min a day was, in fact, good for your health and since you have no proof one way or the other, you will just mindlessly take his word for it and bang your head for 30 min a day? Not many people proceed to bang their head for 30 min a day, so he issues a National Emergency and says the population is in danger because they are not banging their head 30 min a day. You wonder if it might have some negative long-term effects, but since you really have no proof, you will just take his word for it and bang your head 30 min a day? Geeze!!! Wake up!!!!

You think a government created H1N1 is ridiculous – how do you feel about Van Jones believing polution was pumped into black neighborhoods by elite whites? or Rev. Wright believing HIV was created by the government to control black populations? These people are very closely associated with Obama – and Obama said himself, if you want to know who I am or my views on a subject, get to know the people I surround myself with. You think he was lying when he said that?

You think John Holdren – another Obama Czar – is just joking about population control?

I don’t know if it is true or not – but I do know that I do NOT trust my government. Obama took a trip to Mexico, and when he came back to the US – H1N1 appeared. My husband said that night – I bet Obama had something to do with that virus. I will NOT be getting ANY vaccines and havn’t for many years!

Why do you trust the government? Why do you trust Obama?
Aaron says:

November 2, 2009 at 11:49 pm

Ryan does not have to blindly trust the US government. The US gov is not his government, so he has nought to worry about from it.

It’s easy for him to sit in his country and make snide comments about Americans distrusting their government. It’s no different than an American stating, “Those dumb Chinese people who actually believe their government is burning villages and mass slaughtering dissidents; they’re just a bunch back-woods, redneck rice-farmers. They’re so stupid.”
Ryan says:

November 3, 2009 at 4:39 pm

I’ve never told you to trust your government. Your doctor is not the government, and in Canada, neither is mine. I trust science, not garbage from right wing bloggers.

I’ve got the vaccine in me right now. I’ll let you know how that goes.

As for H1N1 not being worse than regular flu, that is actually true, however, as a population, young people do not have the resistance to this kind of flue that they do to others. It is therefore more dangerous, and because it is the predominant flu going around right now, it is easy to target with a vaccine.

Obama took a trip to Mexico, and when he came back to the US – H1N1 appeared.

Did he have a briefcase with a little piggy emblem on it? So you think Obama would take a trip to personally bring back a flu strain from Mexico? You need more than a vaccine.

Why do you trust Obama?

I don’t trust him. I don’t really trust many politicians. I think for myself.
Jonah says:

November 3, 2009 at 6:42 pm

In vaguely related news, I thought this article was interesting.

What if we did as much to prevent rape as we do to prevent H1N1?
Aaron says:

November 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm

I read that linked article, and actually finished grinding through the whole thing. It’s far from the worst thing I’ve read on the net, but still about par with my (very low) expectations from a “feminist response to pop culture” magazine. It’s about the sort of garbage I’d expect its subscribers to gobble up, but garbage nonetheless.

Throwing vague personal credentials gratuitously into an article demonstrates that the writer did little (if any) research before putting fingers to keys; she has nothing more compelling to offer than a degree. While I’m on it, claiming, “I have a degree in…” and nothing more is NOT a compelling qualification, especially when you don’t offer any more detail than “degree”. Meg obviously has nothing higher than a Bachelor’s from an average university at best; if she had a Master’s, she would’ve included that detail.

It wouldn’t be complete left-wing blog without taking at least one pot-shot at evil corporations and their cancer-causing pollution. And she can’t forget to include unrelated factors like rape and domestic violence into into her laundry list of public health issues she wants to see, “…our media, our public discourse, and our institutional responses” mobilized against. (because certain crimes are a public health matter instead of, oh say, a criminal matter) And then to invoke a children’s movie at the end of the article for nothing more than a “clever” lead-in to your next cliche? Seriously? At what audience are you directing this?

And her final statement, “H1N1 is not getting any attention it shouldn’t – it’s getting the attention all public health crises should” leaves a skeptical reader thinking, “No kidding, what sort of wisdom are you going to share with us next?”
Jonah says:

November 4, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Throwing vague personal credentials gratuitously into an article demonstrates that the writer did little (if any) research before putting fingers to keys.

The author is the director of a nonprofit organization which teaches classes to prevent domestic violence and rape around the Boston area. (Clicking Meg’s name reveals this. Also, apparently she went to Vassar, but I’m not really qualified to say whether that’s an “average” school or not.)

Anyway, what confuses me about your response is your disbelief that domestic violence is a public health issue, simply because it also happens to be a criminal issue. I always thought rape prevention was the one part of public school health class that liberals and conservatives could agree on. Doesn’t that put it in the realm of public health? The suggestion that anything is solely a criminal issue is absurd. Surely you think we should be doing more to prevent rape than simply arresting rapists, right?