The Unseen Victims of 9/11/2001

This post will appear Sep 11, 2009 at 8:46 A.M., the time the first of four hijacked airliners was crashed by 19 terrorists, eventually killing almost three thousand people besides themselves.

Today, bloggers will remember those victims.  My tribute is to the unseen victims of 9/11/2001…

Who are the children that would have been born over the last eight years if one or both of their parents had not been killed by terrorists on 9/11/2001?

We will never know them, because their conception was prevented by the murder of one or both of their parents.

Many of the known victims from 9/11/2001 were of childbearing age or younger. People like Jennifer Mazzotta who was 23 years old and engaged. People like Sara Elizabeth Manley Harvey who was 31 when she was married on 8/11/2001 and murdered exactly one month later.  Others were single, like sisters Lisa Egan (31) and Samantha Egan (24).

With their deaths died any hope of their being a mother now, eight years later.

On the airplanes themselves, there were families with young children.  Who knows if those parents would have had more children had they not been murdered that day.

There were 2,996 known victims on 9/11/2001, and there are countless unseen victims… children (and future grandchildren, etc.) who never got the chance to live.

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30 Responses to The Unseen Victims of 9/11/2001

  1. westexan says:

    And to think, we have a president that has essentially said this is all America’s fault and aplogizes to all those who hate us and would destroy not only us but any peoples who do not conform to their warped religious ideas.

  2. Trevor Hilton says:

    It took us just 8 years to completely forget the horror of that day, and elect a “man” and a Congress with a pre-9/11 mentality.

    Living in Oklahoma City, I often see the site of a horrible terrorist attack. We forget at our, and our childrens, peril.

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  4. I live in the uk and I think as long as we live we should not forget the tradgedies that happened that day and to not forget all those people who lost there lives that day who now still go unreported and all there families and friends and everyone else who have told us there last moments with there loved ones who now cant be with us today and will be sadly missed so let everybody live in harmony and peace and try 2 remember those people every year I shorly won’t and my children will find out about all those haroic people who lost there lives and the fire men and paramedics and police who risked there lives and who now still do a great job Xx to all those people who lost there lives that day thinking of you always xX

  5. Mary says:


    Thank your for your touching memorial. I her remarked from time to time that maybe the reason there is not yet a cure for cancer and other diseases is that it went up chimney in Auschwitz.

    Who knows what wonders the world lost on 9/11?

  6. kingshounds says:

    The effects of 9/11 will never be fully understood. Thank you for reminding us all the life potential that was forever lost that day.

  7. citizenkay says:

    Thank you for reminding us that we not only lost people in the present, but in the future as well. Innocent people who wanted no more than to contribute their future to doing their job and making life a little better for others.

    Never Forget

  8. To anyone who is a “truther”, I say this:

    If any U.S. citizen had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks,
    you know who is the most likely suspect?

    Think about it…

    Someone who had previously bombed the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol building.

    Someone who, as an admitted revolutionary communist, had a reason to target the most visible symbols of capitalism in the U.S. … the World Trade Centers.

    Someone who just happens to be “family friends” with the current (not former) President of the United States.

    I challenge anyone to disprove even a single one of the truths here:

    A Different “9/11 Truth”

    Connect the dots…

  9. Jax says:

    Hey, did you guys see that Orly Taitz got her butt kicked in court again? It’s weird, it’s almost like when somebody drags your collection of internet rumors, innuendo and outright falsehoods into a forum where you can’t ban anyone who disagrees with you, it sounds like the ranting of a crazy person!

  10. Jax,
    I’ve noticed that those who like to mock Dr. Orly Taitz don’t mock Leo Donofrio. In fact, they don’t even want to talk about Leo Donofrio because they don’t have the courage to admit that Leo discusses important constitutional issues, not conspiracy theories.

    I think both the “dualer” and the “birther” issues are important. Those who mock Orly only like to mock the “birther” issue, and generally ignore the “dualer” issue. Leo covers the “dualer” issue at great length on his blog, and he accurately challenged the ballot because not one, not two, but three different candidates for President were not Constitutionally eligible (Obama, McCain and Calero).

    But let’s discuss the “birther” issue for just a minute…

    Dr. Fukino did say that Obama was born in Hawaii… but she did not say which “Vital Record” was used to make that statement.

    Dr. Fukino has issued two statements, and neither statement claimed that the COLB produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters is authentic, nor that it matches information in any Vital Record they have on file in Hawaii.

    While I believe that the “dualer” issue is the more important issue, the “birther” issue still merits attention until such point that the State of Hawaii releases a certified copy of Obama’s original hospital birth certificate, confirming his birth specifically at the Kapi’olani Medical Center in Hawai‘i at 7:24 PM on August 4, 1961.

    That is the information that Obama has claimed, and it has yet to be confirmed by any official document from the State of Hawaii.

    Now consider that the Official Report of the Kenyan National Assembly on Wednesday, 5th November, 2008, said that “the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country“.

    Is it possible that Obama could have literally been born on Kenyan soil, yet Dr. Fukino could be legally accurate when she said he was born in Hawaii? I think the answer is “YES!” How? If Obama was adopted in Honolulu, Hawaii by Lolo Soetoro, A NEW BIRTH CERTIFICATE WOULD HAVE BEEN ISSUED! That new birth certificate would list the adoption location as the birth location, and Dr. Fukino could use that “Vital Record” to claim that he was born in Hawaii.

  11. Jax says:

    No, I pretty much think Leo is a lunatic as well. Maybe not a lunatic, but certainly a hopeless narcissist. His whole argument is based off of the fact that the judiciary will rule that a citizen a child who was born in America to an American mother and an foreign father is not eligible to be President, despite the fact that we already had a President with an American mother and a foreign father. Now, he spends an awful lot of time trying to prove that Chester Arthur his this from the public, and maybe he even did, considering it a political liability, but the point is, he was President. So, the Supreme Court invalidates Obama, and by extension, Chester Arthur. What happens to the laws that Arthur signed and the decisions by the Justices that he put on the Supreme Court? Oh, nothing, according to Leo. Nothing at all. So Obama gets removed on a technicality, you get exactly what you want, and the world ticks on just as before despite the Supreme Court having invalidated an entire presidency. Now ask yourself this one question: is that how the world works?

    As for your other accusations with absolutely no proof, I’d like to quote you my favorite paragraphs from Orly getting laughed out of court:

    Judge Land – “In a remarkable shifting of the traditional legal burden of proof, plaintiff unashamedly alleges that the defendant has the burden to prove his ‘natural born’ status. Thus, plaintiff’s counsel, who champions herself as a defender of liberty and freedom, seeks to use the power of the judiciary to compel a citizen, albeit the president of the United States, to ‘prove his innocence’ to ‘charges’ that are based upon conjecture and speculation. Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning fundamental principles upon which our country was founded in order to purportedly ‘protect and serve’ those very principles.”

    In other words, stick to complaining impotently on the internet, kids.

  12. Jax says:

    Wow, that’s some damning evidence right there, Red. Didn’t fill out an I-9 form to become President, huh? You should waste a bunch more of your time complaining about it. Maybe there’s another delusional ex-Soviet with a persecution complex who’ll carry the banner.

    Do you guys get together and consciously try to out-crazy each other, or is it just a natural side-effect of hanging out together?

  13. Jax says:

    So your answer is yes, you consciously try to out-crazy each other. Yes, your “movement” is confused, ill-informed and quite often flat-out incorrect on the issues you’re protesting against, but hey! At least you’re loud, am I right?

  14. Jax,

    It’s not an issue of compelling Obama to ‘prove his innocence’.

    It’s not an issue of “innocent until proven guilty”.

    It’s an issue of “ineligible until proven eligible”.

    It’s the reason why you have to provide documents and an I-9 form to prove you are eligible to hold any job in the United States.

    All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

    Got that? “MUST”.

    And Obama hasn’t even done that.

    “We the People” are the employer. Barack Hussein Obama II (a.k.a Barry Soetoro) is the employee. The burden of proof is on the employee, not the employer. Obama has to prove that he is eligible to work in the United States, per the Immigration Reform and Control Act that was signed by President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986. And Obama has to prove that he is eligible to hold the office of President and Commander in Chief… he has to prove that he is a “natural born citizen” per Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

    Judge Land is wrong. “In a remarkable shifting of the traditional legal burden of proof, Judge Land unashamedly alleges that the employer has the burden to prove that the employee is ineligible.”

  15. Jax,

    The “movement” that is confused, ill-informed and quite often flat-out incorrect is…

    the so-called “Mainstream” media. Even Jon Stewart knows it.

    Coming back to the point of this post, the picture I linked to in my last comment would have been “Ground Zero” if not for the heroic passengers on United Flight 93.

    Let’s Roll.

  16. P.S. Jax, I’ll warn you now. Any additional off-topic comments on this thread will be deleted.

  17. Jax says:

    Oh, no problem. You want on topic? I liked your compassionate, well-thought-out, heartfelt post about the victims of 9/11 and the greater effect of their loss on America and the world… until your eighth comment down where you used the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans to advance your own political agenda. I’m sure that as your friend’s parent hurtled to his death at the hands of murderous terrorist thugs, he thought, “Hey, at least that friend of my son’s who won’t shut up about how Democrats are the Anti-Christ will be able to attack the next Democrat president on the back of this. I don’t mind dying, if it will provide him with even tenuous political ammunition. Thank god, my death will not have been in vain.”

    You want to delete me, then delete me, you hypocrite. You’re doing everything you can to tear down this country during a time of war.

  18. There is no doubt that this country is at war.

    In any war, it is necessary to understand both the identity and tactics of the enemies who seek to destroy you.

    A person who speaks of wanting to “break free from the constraints of the Constitution” is a domestic enemy of said Constitution.

    A person who has consciously chosen to have long-term relationships with those who say “God D@mn America!” and those who have bombed the Pentagon, U.S. Capitol Building, and Police stations (killing police officers in the process), should be seriously investigated as a domestic enemy of this country.

    To ignore those who want to bring this country “to its knees” is to leave the door open to the murders of more innocent people.

    It wasn’t my “friend’s parent” who was murdered by terrorists on 9/11/2001. It was my friend.

    I won’t forget.

    And I won’t ignore the undeniable truths.

  19. Jax says:

    And yet you worship the Reagan administration, who supported, trained and armed the muhjadeen, the same people who later formed Al Qaeda and murdered your friend. In fact, since they did this to fight the Soviets and you yourself have said, “Reagan fought communism. And for that I will always be grateful” you are, by extension, supporting the arming and aid of terrorists. In fact, you’re GRATEFUL they got that training.

    See how taking quotes out of context works, Red?

  20. Jax,

    Please provide links to primary source material which substantiates your claim that the Reagan administration supported, trained and armed the people who later formed Al Qaeda.

  21. Jax says:

    Sure. What source will you not automatically discount as leftist propaganda? I’d tell you to just Google “Operation Cyclone” or “Soviet War in Afghanistan”, but I know you birthers all think Google is in on it.

  22. Jax,

    Assuming it’s the same “Jax”, I see that you’re trolling on Leo’s blog like you troll on mine.

    You totally misrepresent Leo’s position on Orly’s cases, and try to use Orly’s errors to smear Leo.

    Then you have the audacity (stupidity, really) to say the following to the man who has won two tournaments and tens of thousands of dollars playing poker:

    I gotta play poker against you, buddy. You seem like the type to go all in before the flop with a 2-9 off suit.

    Jax, you have zero credibility. When you smear a winner, you reveal yourself as a loser.

  23. Jax says:

    Gosh, I always thought a troll was someone who posts a deliberately disruptive message with the sole intention of causing disruption. Like the Internet version of your buddies at the town halls, the people who show up just to scream. I post because I think it’s genuinely important that when you lie, obscure and mislead, maybe someone should point out your errors, deliberate falsehoods and obvious overwhelming political bias. I don’t take the truth as lightly as you do.

    I’m not trying to “smear” Leo Donofrio. I have no intention of hurting his reputation on the public stage or anything. It just cracks me up that he spends an enormous amount of time pouring over documents in order to support his interpretation (and yes, Red, despite the constant repetition of the birthers, that’s all it is, HIS interpretation) of a natural-born citizen. He then posts enormous treatises on his blog about how they could be used in the service of Orly Taitz’s specific cases.

    Red, Orly Taitz is a completely incompetent lawyer. She is not only unfamiliar with even the simplest concepts of precedent and case law, she seems to have open contempt for procedure, process and the rules of the court. She is paranoid, has delusions of grandeur, and has been accused by several people, including clients and witnesses, of asking them to perjure themselves in open court, which is a crime. She is never, ever, ever going to win any of these cases. Not ever.

    Surely, at some point, you must have heard of the concept of an analogy. Let me explain the poker reference, and then you can ask me any questions if you’re still having trouble. I know Leo Donofrio is a poker player. I am trying to explain that spending a great deal of time and energy coming up with complicated legal manuevers for Orly Taitz to carry out is an extremely stupid thing to do, as you’d have better luck trying to train a duck to win a chess championship. Going all in before the flop on a 2-9 off suit would be an extremely stupid thing to do. “Going all in” represents the time and energy he’s spending on his blog posts; Orly is the 2-9 off suit, which is as bad a hand as she is a lawyer. It’s an analogy. Let me know if you need it broken down further, I’d be happy to help you out.

  24. Aaron says:

    Actually, Jax IS trying to smear Leo Donofrio. From Jax’s post #11, “No, I pretty much think Leo is a lunatic as well.”

    Also note Jax’s attempt to distract AND make a straw-man in post #13, where he attempted to derail the thread by focusing JUST on the I-9 form, deliberately ignoring the fact that is but one small part of a larger picture.

    Also note the total of no less than 15 ad hominem attacks that Jax has used on this thread alone. Also, Jax has committed hypocrisy in no less than 3 separate times in this thread alone.

  25. Thanks, Aaron, I appreciate your comment. You are right, and Jax has zero credibility. His/her purpose is to smear both Leo and me.

  26. Jax says:

    Could you define “smear”? I do not think that word means what you think it means.

  27. …the memorial remembers the unborn children murdered by the terrorists; you can see this in the picture of the 1993 victims’ memorial above, and the phrase “and her unborn child” appears throughout the memorial. Terribly sad, but they deserve a remembrance of the lives they never had a chance to live.

  28. We can change this nation by changing people’s hearts.

    This nation rightfully mourned the murder of 2,819 people at the hands of terrorists on September 11, 2001. One of those 2,819 people was a personal friend of mine. But the most innocent of lives are those of innocent babies in their mother’s womb, and EVERY DAY in this country more innocent babies are murdered than the number of people murdered by terrorists on 9/11/2001.
    (Number of U.S. abortions per day: approximately 3,700)

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