Presidential Approval Update

Time to update the chart with July and August (to date) numbers:

2009 Strongly
Approve
Strongly
Disapprove
Approval
Index
Total
Approve
Total
Disapprove
Jan 43 20 23 62 34
Feb 39 25 14 59 39
Mar 37 30 7 57 42
Apr 35 31 4 55 44
May 35 29 6 57 42
Jun 34 32 2 54 45
Jul 30 37 -7 51 48
Aug (to date) 31 38 -7 49 50

Previous: Obama Hits New Low

Today’s numbers showed a new low for Total Approve (47%), and a matched high for Total Disapprove (52%).

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39 Responses to Presidential Approval Update

  1. Pingback: Obama Hits New Low « I Took The Red Pill (and escaped the Matrix)

  2. Trevor Hilton says:

    “Buyers Remorse.”

    Unfortunately, we’re still stuck with him for the next 4 years.

  3. Math says:

    Hum, make that 8 years if you guys keep this up. And please do.

  4. He’s not a natural born Citizen. He was never Constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

    The only way for him to remain in office the remainder of the term is for Justice to be denied.

    And if Justice is denied, the only way for him to be re-elected is for the election to be stolen.

  5. Math says:

    LOL you’re keeping it up! Thank you! The world will be a better place for four more years thanks to your valiant efforts!

  6. Newssleuth says:

    So, Math, You don’t believe the laws in our Constitution should be upheld? I bet you know how to read so the ONLY way you could come to your conclusion is if you had not read the Constitution or the “Laws of Nations.” If you had you would know what a Natural Born Citizen is.

    http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

    Hi Red, bummed out about TD’s Blog and visiting you. Reading through lots of your information.

  7. Welcome aboard, Newssleuth! It’s good to have you.

    I have an idea in relation to a home for the TD folks, and I’ll email the idea to you to see what you think…

  8. Ryan says:

    Newssleuth, you know Vattel was Swiss right? Is there somewhere in the Constitution where is says that the US is bound by the Laws of Nations? Does it not mean anything to you that the citizenship status of Obama’s father has been known all along, and no constitutional expert or government official has filed any sort of objection?

    Mr Pill won’t answer this question. Is an orphan, whose birth parents are unknown, but is born in New York City and raised by two American parents, goes to an American school, and fights for the country at war eligible to be president?

  9. Ryan says:

    Mr Pill,

    Your approval ratings are a bit skewed, as you only list the “strong” approval and disapproval ratings. Strong disapproval will always rise when a president has a big change proposed.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    His approval ratings have been dropping for sure, but they are still miles ahead of Bush in his last few years.

  10. Math says:

    @Ryan: what do you mean by “no constitutional expert or government official has filed any sort of objection”?

    Taitz and Berg have filed objections! And their position is supported by highly regarded consititional scholars NewsSleuth and Itooktheredpill!

    There is a conspiracy within the Supreme court! How dare they think they have the final say in Constitutional matters in the country, ignoring the vast knowledge and wisdom of aforementioned experts?

  11. Ryan said:

    Is there somewhere in the Constitution where is says that the US is bound by the Laws of Nations?

    There is some legitimate debate about whether or not this directly refers to Vattel’s work, but Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution includes the following:

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

  12. Ryan said:

    Does it not mean anything to you that the citizenship status of Obama’s father has been known all along, and no constitutional expert or government official has filed any sort of objection?

    That is a lie.

    Leo Donofrio is an extremely talented attorney, far more of a “constitutional expert” than you or me, and he “filed an objection” in the form of a lawsuit that objected to three ineligible candidates being on the ballot in NJ for the office of President of the United States. Roger Colero, John McCain, and Barack Obama are all ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States, because none of them are natural born citizens, yet the NJ Secretary of State allowed all three on the ballot. His case was met with sabotage from Obama supporters at every level, including clerks at the United States Supreme court.

    Leo’s WordPress blog is Natural Born Citizen, and I highly recommend to anyone who cares about supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States that they read his blog postings from the very beginning to present.

    The “Anti-Birthers” love to treat this whole thing as a conspiracy theory. But they fail to distinguish between two separate issues:

    1) Verification of Obama’s birth documents

    2) Answering the doubts that the United States Supreme Court itself acknowledged about whether or not U.S. birth alone, without reference to the citizenship of the parents, could make someone a “natural born citizen”.

    If Obama was born in Hawaii, the 14th Amendment makes him a U.S. Citizen (sufficient to be a Senator), but it does not make him a natural born citizen (required to be President). See the doubts expressed by the U.S. Supreme Court in their 1875 decision in the case of Minor v Happersett:

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”

    In the words of the United States Supreme Court, to be undoubtedly a natural born citizen of the United States, it is necessary to be born in the country of parents who were its citizens.

    NBC = 1, 2, 3.

    NBC (Natural Born Citizen) =
    1) Born in the U.S.
    2) Father was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth
    3) Mother was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth

    My first point is that Obama’s own campaign web site openly admitted that he fails #2. His father was never a U.S. citizen, and Obama was born a British subject. That is 100% fact, and is undisputed.

    My second point is that Obama has never released any document directly from the State of Hawaii to even prove #1. And the State of Hawaii, when asked, refused to verify the authenticity of the COLB produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters.

  13. Mr Pill won’t answer this question. Is an orphan, whose birth parents are unknown, but is born in New York City and raised by two American parents, goes to an American school, and fights for the country at war eligible to be president?

    I would say no. But it doesn’t matter what I think… it matters what the United States Supreme Court says.

  14. Math says:

    By their refusal to intervene and refusal to hear any of the cases presented to it so far, hasn’t the Supreme court indirectly spoken in favor of Obama? They cannot hear every case presented to them, so they pick and choose the ones who they think are valid and stand a chance. Their refusal to consider any case challenging Obama’s elligibility speaks volumes in my opinion.

  15. Ryan said:

    Your approval ratings are a bit skewed, as you only list the “strong” approval and disapproval ratings.

    False. Look at the chart again and see both “strong” approval & disapproval AND “total” approval & disapproval. Would you like to issue a retraction?

    His approval ratings have been dropping for sure, but they are still miles ahead of Bush in his last few years.

    … and miles behind Bush in his first few years.

    Listen, I am no fan of the last two years of Bush’s Presidency. Once the Democrats took control of Congress, and the trojan horse Paulson was made Treasury Secretary, all hell broke loose. Bush trusted people who shouldn’t be trusted.

    And as a sub-point to that larger point, Bush trusted Obama when Obama specifically asked Bush to request the release of the second half of the TARP money. People can’t blame all of TARP on Bush – half of it was Bush’s request, and the other half was Obama’s request. Bush was just foolish enough to let Obama talk him into making the request on Obama’s behalf… the 2nd half of TARP was technically requested by Bush, but the money was released to the Obama administration.

  16. Interesting how the “Anti-birthers” always focus on Taitz and Berg, and never mention Leo Donofrio. To quote Leo,

    – Whether Obama was not born in Hawaii is a conspiracy theory which would include the acquiescence of a long cast of characters.

    – Whether a person who was a citizen of a foreign nation – at the time of his birth – can be President and Commander In Chief of the US armed forces is a legal question, not a conspiracy theory.

  17. Math says:

    @Red: what’s wrong with focusing on Berg and Taitz? What are you admitting there?

    And also, Bush did nothing but sit on his hands letting 9/11 happen in his first year. Of course his approval didn’t get a hit. Now Obama must make the tough decisions to fix what Bush f’ed up. He still has 3.5 years to get his approval rating back up. Don’t worry, you’ll have an extra four years to whine and cry.

  18. Al says:

    Interesting comment shared by Leo Donofrio, highlighting his focus and sharpness upon the key issue…

    – Whether Obama was not born in Hawaii is a conspiracy theory which would include the acquiescence of a long cast of characters.

    – Whether a person who was a citizen of a foreign nation – at the time of his birth – can be President and Commander In Chief of the US armed forces is a legal question, not a conspiracy theory.

    Thanks for sharing it.

  19. Whether intentional or not, Taitz’s pleadings in the Cook case WAIVED THE GENUINE LEGAL QUESTION PERTAINING TO OBAMA’S BRITISH BIRTH ADMISSION.

    Leo Donofrio is a brilliant legal mind, who doesn’t engage in any of the conspiracy theories.

    You ask, “what’s wrong with focusing on Berg and Taitz?”

    What’s wrong is that you are completely ignoring the valid legal questions raised by Obama admitting that he was born a British subject.

    Obama supporters don’t want to answer those questions. They’d rather use Alinsky tactics against Berg and Taitz.

  20. Math says:

    @red: “Leo Donofrio is a brilliant legal mind, who doesn’t engage in any of the conspiracy theories. ”

    So you admit YOU engage in conspiracy theories?

  21. Sure. And I’m not ashamed of that at all. I believe that the Weather Underground had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and there are many undisputed truths about Ayers and Obama.

    I believe that Obama does not have a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate in the name “Barack Hussein Obama II”, due to either or both of the following: birth somewhere other than Hawaii, and/or subsequent adoption by Lolo Soetoro which changed his last name to Soetoro and sealed his original birth record.

    I believe that the only thing necessary to trigger the newspaper birth announcements was a sworn statement by one of Obama’s relatives. The newspaper birth announcements do not prove that the “original Vital Record” is a long-form birth certificate.

    I believe that Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Stanley Ann Obama didn’t live at the address listed in the newspaper birth announcements.

    I believe that the Obama COLB is a forgery, produced at and by the Obama Campaign headquarters.

    I believe that Annenberg Political Fact Check is not a trustworthy “authority” to claim that the COLB is authentic.

    I believe that the State of Hawaii has never validated the COLB, and never said it is authentic.

    I believe that the State of Hawaii has never released the “original Vital Records” of Obama’s birth.

    I believe that the “birth conspiracy” really doesn’t have to involve that many people. It could be as few as three or four people. Fukino and Onaka in Hawaii are the only ones necessary to give two very carefully parsed statements. The COLB forgerer could have been one of them, or someone in the Obama camp. The people from Fact Check don’t have to be in on a conspiracy, they merely looked at the forgery and said, “looks authentic to me”.

    The newspaper birth announcements do not have to be part of a conspiracy… they could merely represent that an Obama relative reported his birth to the State of Hawaii.

    Think about things this way… if you were submitting documentation for an I-9 form to start a new job, could you get away with submitting what Obama has submitted? A newspaper announcement? A URL? Get real.

    I do not wear tinfoil hats. I am looking for two very reasonable things:

    1) Members of Congress need to uphold their sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, including Article II Section 1, and the 12th, 14th, 20th, and 25th amendments. (All of which have to do with Presidential eligibility). Members of Congress need to do the same thing with Obama’s “original Vital Records” as they did with the Electoral College vote… they need to inspect a certificate, sent directly to them under seal from the State of Hawaii.

    2) Members of Congress need to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to clarify the definition of “natural born Citizen”, and thereby erase the doubts about Obama’s eligibility that the U.S. Supreme Court itself raised in the Minor v. Happersett case.

    If Obama was born in Hawaii, the 14th Amendment makes him a U.S. Citizen (sufficient to be a Senator), but it does not make him a natural born citizen (required to be President). See the doubts expressed by the U.S. Supreme Court in their 1875 decision in the case of Minor v Happersett:

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”

    In the words of the United States Supreme Court, to be undoubtedly a natural born citizen of the United States, it is necessary to be born in the country of parents who were its citizens.

    NBC = 1, 2, 3.

    NBC (Natural Born Citizen) =
    1) Born in the U.S.
    2) Father was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth
    3) Mother was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth

    Obama’s own campaign web site openly admitted that he fails #2. His father was never a U.S. citizen, and Obama was born a British subject. That is 100% fact, and is undisputed.

    Obama has never released any document directly from the State of Hawaii to even prove #1. And the State of Hawaii, when asked, refused to verify the authenticity of the COLB produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters.

  22. Ga.Peach says:

    Hello. I did not realize you had a blog. I have enjoyed reading your posts at TD. Wasn’t expecting the pause but TD deserved a much needed break anyway.

    God Bless You.

  23. Ga.Peach,

    Thank you very much for your comment. It means a lot to me.

    None of us knows how long TD will be away. I would love it if Dr. Kate would take over in TD’s absence, but it looks like Dr. Kate has set up her own blog:

    drkate on August 15, 2009 at 1:46 am

    A TRIBUTE TO TEXASDARLIN

    Found on my new, fledging website….I know TD has to do what she does but for me it was my home in writing about the constitution. So I’ve set up a new blog until I find a new home, and dedicated the first article to TD.

    I hope you will join me there as well as keeping up here, which I intend to as well. I would like to keep focusing on the constitution and eventually will try to get TD’s major articles over there.

    All help is welcome in setting up this site, contributing, and helping to carry on. I know I cannot meet TD’s excellent blog, but want to offer a space we can all continue. Thank you all!

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/

    I know that the way TD ran her blog (most comments stuck in moderation until she manually approved them) was very labor intensive. I’ve been thinking of ways to run a community blog in a less labor-intensive way. I’ve got two ideas:

    1) Run it like HotAir.com and MichelleMalkin.com, where you must first register during an open registration window, and if you troll you are then banned, or

    2) No pre-registration, but a group of trusted administrators (long-time contributors to TD) share the burden of deleting offensive/troll comments and banning those email & IP addresses.

    Thank you again for your comment and kind words.

    God Bless You, too!

    – Red Pill

  24. Ga.Peach,

    On TD’s blog you said:

    It is time for US to be the community organizers.

    Indeed. And when the Obamabots complain, tell them:

    Community Organizers can’t whine & complain when communities organize!

  25. Newssleuth says:

    Peach!!!

  26. Ga.Peach says:

    Thanks for your response. I just found drkate’s site. So glad we can all still ‘talk’. It helps so much in keeping up our spirits to know we are not alone. I will be checking back with your blog each day as I did at TD. If there is any way that I can help you or drkate, I will…but please know I am not computer savvy…just know the basics at this point. Just let me know. Thanks again, Patriot.

    God Bless the USA

    Newssleuth, Love you friend.

  27. Aaron says:

    Mr Red,

    The lefties posting on your blog use a lot of logical fallacies.

    I saw where Math just above automatically claimed that you believe in conspiracy theories based solely on your pointing out that Leo doesn’t. Another leftie claimed that CA school districts whose property tax revenues are higher was only because the property values were higher, totally ignoring the fact districts vary in size and population and that has more to do with the fluctuations of district tax income than property values.

    It seems to me that the lefties can only make their arguments by stuffing them through in a fallacy, and fitting them into a bumper sticker sized snark which is more an ad hominem attack than argument for their cause.

  28. Math says:

    Aaron: of course, if you limit yourself to the first degree, you will conclude that I used a fallacy (do you even know what that word means? hint: it doesn’t mean “a position that disagrees with my own”).

    But then again, if you bother to look at what conspiracy theories Donofrio doesn’t believe in (which Red posted in this very thread), and if you compare that to the positions Red has stated multiple times, and you add the fact that Red himself has admitted that such positions were conspiracy theories, you would also conclude that Red believes in conspiracy theories.

  29. I’m going to have some fun with this.

    Math, on what evidence do you base your statement:

    if you bother to look at what conspiracy theories Donofrio doesn’t believe in

    Please show how knowledgeable you are about what Leo Donofrio believes. Please link to some of Leo’s posts on his blog to substantiate your claims. Please go ahead and do exactly what you’re telling others to do:

    compare that to the positions Red has stated multiple times

    I double-dog dare you.

  30. Now, as to my belief that the Weather Underground had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and Obama is “family friends” with members of the Weather Underground, consider this new information:

    Former Weather Underground Terrorists and ’60s Maoists Nurtured Obama’s “Green Jobs” Czar

    A few short years ago Anthony (Van) Jones was a Bay Area radical agitator-a committed Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, waging war on the police and capitalist system.

    Today Van Jones holds a key position in the US government and has the ear of President Barack Obama.

    Jones is not the only committed Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, waging war on the police and capitalist system.

    Look at Bernardine Dohrn. Look at her husband Bill Ayers. Look at their “family friends” the Obamas.

    Look at multiple undeniable truths and form your own opinion about whether or not the Weather Underground might have had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.

  31. Math says:

    Red: Unless you misquoted Leo, my source is you. Do I even need to bother looking up posts where you cast doubt on Obama’s birth in Hawaii?

    ——–

    Interesting how the “Anti-birthers” always focus on Taitz and Berg, and never mention Leo Donofrio. To quote Leo,

    – Whether Obama was not born in Hawaii is a conspiracy theory which would include the acquiescence of a long cast of characters.

    – Whether a person who was a citizen of a foreign nation – at the time of his birth – can be President and Commander In Chief of the US armed forces is a legal question, not a conspiracy theory.

  32. Math says:

    Red: By the way how do you quote in the comments? You seem to be the only one able to do so around here.

  33. I said:

    “Leo Donofrio is a brilliant legal mind, who doesn’t engage in any of the conspiracy theories.”

    You said

    “if you bother to look at what conspiracy theories Donofrio doesn’t believe in“

    Those are two very different things.

    Leo doesn’t engage in the conspiracy theories because he doesn’t want to distract from the primary issue: Obama’s own campaign admitted that he was born a British subject because his father was a British subject (not U.S. Citizen) at the time of BHO II’s birth. That is sufficient to disqualify him, regardless of his birth location.

    Just because Leo doesn’t engage in the “birther” conspiracy doesn’t mean he doesn’t believe in it or that he somehow disparages those who do.

    You come off sounding like you know what Leo believes, and you don’t. I still challenge you to go actually read what Leo has to say. You might learn something.

    For example, “Where Do We place the Plaque, Mr. Obama?

    You should also, at a minimum, read his current post. The Obama administration likes to talk about “disinformation”, but the ones pumping out disinformation right now are the MSM.

  34. Red: By the way how do you quote in the comments? You seem to be the only one able to do so around here.

    Short answer: I’m not the only one able to do so. If you learn how to put the appropriate HTML tags in your comment, you can do blockquotes, hyperlinks, bold text, italics, etc.

    If you bother to read the two Leo Donofrio posts I linked above, and tell me what you learned from them, then I will give you a more detailed answer for how to put the appropriate HTML tags in your comment.

  35. Ryan says:

    Wow, Mr. Pill, you’re being a jerk lately. Just show him how, it won’t hurt.

    Math, use the code like this (hopefully this works)

    Put your quote here

  36. Ryan says:

    Nope, didn’t work. Maybe this (it’s hard to put HTML code in comments.

    <blockquote>
    Put Your Quote Here
    </blockquote>

  37. Ryan,

    Did you think I was “being a jerk” for saying:

    If you bother to read the two Leo Donofrio posts I linked above, and tell me what you learned from them, then I will give you a more detailed answer for how to put the appropriate HTML tags in your comment.

    Do you realize that I was mirroring what Math himself said to me:

    “if you bother to look at what conspiracy theories Donofrio doesn’t believe in“

    I would have been happy to show Math how to put tags in comments (I’ve shown others previously…remember when I taught you?), but I wanted him to practice what he preaches first.

    That was my point.

  38. Math says:

    Red: once you said it was HTML, that’s all I needed. I thought wordpress had a special tagging system. Half a thanks for half an answer I guess. And another half thanks to Ryan for providing the other half of the answer! ;-) Now let’s see if it works.

    Whether Obama was not born in Hawaii is a conspiracy theory which would include the acquiescence of a long cast of characters.

    I am quoting you quoting Donofrio, so these should be his actual words. Tell me how there is a shadow of a doubt that he not only doesn’t engage in the conspiracy theories, he doesn’t believe them either. He doesn’t say the actual words, but don’t tell me you haven’t extrapolated a conclusion from someone’s words or actions before. I don’t have to look far, on your second post (for now), you imply that Obama is using his grandmother for political gain. I’m sure you don’t have a quote of Obama saying “I am using my grandmother for political gain”.

  39. Math,

    Read the posts I linked to on Leo’s blog. The answers you seek about his beliefs are there.

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