To Tell The Truth

Is this “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” from “Coast Province, Republic of Kenya” authentic?
kenya-bc

I don’t know, but my first impression is that it’s not.

Why not?

Because two of the fields that are for “Signature of …” have typed information and no written signature.

But, but … this has a raised seal, so it MUST be authentic, right?

Just like the raised seal makes this authentic, right?

In both scenarios, we have .JPG files of supposedly authentic documents. I don’t don’t think either one is authentic.

Which is all the more reason why the Congress needs to inspect a certified copy of Obama’s original birth certificate, sent by the State of Hawaii directly to Congress under seal.

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34 Responses to To Tell The Truth

  1. Well, this is certainly interesting…

    WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

    I assume that the other authentic documents do not have handwritten signatures in the places I expected to see them. Given that, I’m more inclined to think that the document above stands a good chance of being authentic. I won’t claim that it is authentic, but this is a very interesting turn of events, especially given that Hawaiian officials have never vouched for the authenticity of the COLB produced at and by the Obama Campaign headquarters in Chicago.

    In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama’s short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org.

    Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Chiyome Fukino’s initial press release last October and subsequent press release last week also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents.

  2. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    More fakes and frauds…

    http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/third-obama-birth-certificate-appears-in-court/

    And to think that Orly actually submitted this to the court… shysters, frauds and incompetents abound in the birther movement…

  3. Hey Frin,

    I made it clear that my first impression of this was that it was fake, and that even after receiving additional information that it matches the format of similar documents I won’t claim that it is authentic.

    It is, however, the first document, with a seal, that states a birth hospital for Barack Hussein Obama II.

    Let’s see the State of Hawaii release an official copy of a document, with a seal, stating the birth hospital of Barack Hussein Obama II.

    There is absolutely no excuse for Obama not to fully disclose the truth about his birth, his passport records, his school records (which could show him applying as an International student), etc.

    He, with words (“just words”) spoken out of his own mouth, has made it clear that the President has a duty to the American people to be open, transparent, and accountable. His words and his deeds are exactly opposite from each other. He has been the least transparent President that we have had in my lifetime.

    It’s time to tell the truth, Barry.

  4. Ryan says:

    Mr. Pill.

    Why do you want to know what hospital he was born in? It’s already known where he was born, but exactly how much liberty is the president supposed to give up? Does he need to disclose every single detail of his and his families lives?

    Do you have ANY evidence that he was not born in Hawaii?
    Do you have ANY evidence that he went to school as an international student?
    Do you have ANY evidence that he travelled on, or even held an alternate passport?

    You don’t have anything. Disclosure does not mean that a person must prove to you that every wild speculative assertion is not true. Bring some evidence, and there will be a reason to ask these questions.

    If I suddenly say “The president has a hammer and sickle tattooed on his butt” is he obligated to prove me wrong?

  5. Mr. Ryan,

    The State of Hawaii has never released an official document stating in which hospital Barack Hussein Obama II was born.

    The State of Hawaii has never confirmed stories of his birth hospital (which was stated as fact that it was a certain hospital, and then switched to another hospital when someone claimed, without official documentation, that the second hospital was really where he was born). The “document” that was shown was really a composite softcopy document, not a scan of any official document.

    Do you have ANY certificate evidence that he was born in Hawaii?

    Do you have ANY evidence that he went to school as a U.S. citizen?

    Do you have ANY evidence that he travelled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport?

    but exactly how much liberty is the president supposed to give up?

    But exactly how much liberty are “We the People” supposed to give up?

    We expect our Senators and Representatives to uphold their sworn oath of office, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. That includes sections relevant to the Presidency, including Article II Section 1, and the 12th, 14th, and 20th Amendments.

    This isn’t innocent until proven guilty. This is ineligible until proven eligible.

    Obama has yet to release an official copy of an original birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, confirming his birth location and parents.

    A natural-born citizen is born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

    NBC (Natural Born Citizen) = 1, 2, 3 .

    1 – Born in the U.S.
    2 – Father was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth
    3 – Mother was a U.S. citizen at time of child’s birth

    It only takes missing one of those to disqualify someone from being a NBC, and therefore ineligible to hold the office of President and Commander in Chief.

    Obama has already admitted that Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a British, then Kenyan, (but never a U.S.) citizen. He is disqualified from #1, unless someone else is his true father.

    Obama may also fall short of #2, if the Kenyan Certification of Birth is confirmed as authentic.

    In fact, if he was indeed born in Mombasa, Kenya, then he has never been a United States Citizen, because even though his (presumed) mother was a U.S. citizen, she was too young to confer U.S. citizenship upon him. (She would have had to have resided in the U.S. for 5 years after the age of 14, and she was only 18 at the time).

    I repeat, if Obama was born in Kenya, he has never been even a U.S. citizen, let alone a natural born citizen. If so, he should be sent to Gitmo as an enemy combatant.

  6. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    “If the Kenyan Certification of Birth is confirmed as authentic…” – well you just keep wishing that it will be confirmed…

    Its a fake. Its been forged from an Australian birth certificate – http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=1676

  7. Ms. Frin,

    It is Obama’s duty to prove that he was born on U.S. soil to two parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

    If he can, then he is, without any doubt, a natural born citizen of the United States of America. (But for that to be shown at this point, it would require that his father was someone other than Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., and “BHO II” would be exposed as a fraud.)

    If he can prove that he was born on U.S. soil and only one of his parents was a U.S. citizen, then the Supreme Court of the United States will have to put to rest their previously expressed doubts about whether such a person is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

    Obama has never released an official, certified copy of his birth certificate from the State of Hawaii. There is absolutely no excuse for this.

  8. Saw your comment about the 2,996 Project at michellemalkin.com and thought I’d drop by and visit. I also applied but don’t know if i got accepted.

    While I’m here, here’s my take on this whole episode. Regardless of whether or not the birth certificate proves Obama’s qualification by natural birth to be POTUS, I believe the truth is probably irrelevant. I believe that Obama grew up believing that he was a natural born American citizen but during the vetting process, something turned up on his birth certificate that would trigger a big enough political dust-up to be worth hiding. I don’t have any proof, I just believe that.

    I believe the truth is irrelevant because of why our Founding Fathers placed the “natural born” requirement in the Constitution in the first place. Not knowing where their experiment in democracy would lead, and fearing that opposing interests might find themselves in an unbreakable stalemate paralyzing the government, they wanted to categorically remove the temptation to break the logjam by introducing a compromise solution of inviting a foreign royal scion to become president/king. That was very common in Europe and elsewhere (Poland, Mexico e.g…).

    It is a major distraction that only appeals to those who believe that Obama can be removed by a mere technicality. Won’t happen even if he WAS born in Kenya which is ridiculous. I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii but that the birth certificate contains something odd or irregular. Or maybe the original was actually lost (that happens) and submitting a facsimile would have been a killer. Something like that.

  9. Ryan,
    You previously said:

    They said in no uncertain terms that released document matched the original.

    I challenged you to link to an official statement from Health Director Dr. Fukino, where she said that the COLB produced at and by the Obama Campaign Headquarters is fully authentic and matches all of the information on the original birth certificate.

    I’m still waiting for you to produce this link, proving that what you said is true and not a lie.

  10. By the way, I agree that Obama should be compelled to release the original birth certificate immediately. It is inexcusable that he hasn’t. But I don’t think it is difficult to understand why, were it to prove exculpatory but contain a flaw that would be so troublesome as to create a permanent distraction, that he would delay doing so for as long as possible. After all, he satisfied the McCain camp during the election campaign that he is a citizen. As much as I don’t like McCain, I don’t think he is a traitor.

  11. Pasadena Phil,

    Thank you for your comment.

    I believe Obama’s birth location is still in doubt. We have yet to see an original birth certificate with the signature of the delivering doctor.

    I believe that regardless of Obama’s actual birth location, his birth was reported to the State of Hawaii (either by the hospital, or by a sworn statement by one of his grandparents). This would create an original “Vital Record” which Dr. Fukino has admitted the State of Hawaii still has in its possession. The creation of this “Vital Record” is what triggered the two newspaper announcements. The newspaper announcements do not prove Obama was born in Hawaii, they merely prove that a “Vital Record” was created in Hawaii. Since creation of the “Vital Record” did not require proof of birth location, but merely the sworn statement of a relative, Obama’s birth location is still in doubt.

    The “burden of proof” is on Obama, no one else. We don’t have to prove he’s not a natural born citizen. He must prove he is one. And since the only way he could be born a natural born citizen is to be born on U.S. soil to two U.S. Citizen parents, the only way he can be a natural born citizen is if his father was someone different than what he has said. So, even if Obama was born a natural born citizen, on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents, he would be exposed as a fraud, and ineligible to hold the office because he is not the person he claimed to be. He would be guilty of fraud, perjury, obstruction of justice, etc.

  12. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    As an aside, I know that you have said a few times that McCain released his BC when asked for it – actually he didn’t. Fred Hollander filed a complaint against McCain in Mar 2008 (see here for all the filings http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/hollanderv.mccain.php). McCain did not ever show his BC as a result of that case – Hollander submitted an alleged copy of McCain’s BC as an exhibit. McCain got the motion dismissed without hearing.

    I must admit to being mightly confused about what you actually want Obama to release. By law, Hawaii is not allowed to release the original BC – it is a vital record that they are required to keep on file at all times. So all that they will release is a certified copy of the original BC. Now, Hawaii has already stated that all they issue is the COLB – there is no short form and long form, its a COLB and that’s it. So, as far as I can tell – you are asking for Obama to provide the SAME COLB that he released last year which you say is a fake. Am I right?

  13. Pasadena Phil,

    After all, he satisfied the McCain camp during the election campaign that he is a citizen. As much as I don’t like McCain, I don’t think he is a traitor.

    McCain was in no position to challenge Obama on the NBC issue, because McCain himself is not a NBC.

    McCain was not born on U.S. soil. And he was not born on a U.S. military base. The hospital on that base was not built until several years after McCain’s birth. McCain released his original birth certificate, and his birth hospital is revealed as Colón Hospital in the city of Colón, Panama. Even though McCain was made (by statute) a U.S. citizen due to his foreign birth to two U.S. Citizens, he was not born a Natural born Citizen.

  14. Frin,

    1) The link you provided does not work.

    2) A copy of McCain’s birth certificate can be seen in this post.

    3) A mother who gave birth to twins the day after Obama’s birth, has recently requested and received official copies of their original birth certificates. (Not COLBs). This is what they look like, and that is what Obama must release, directly from the State of Hawaii rather than on Daily KOS or from his campaign headquarters in Chicago. I will trust a certified copy of an original birth certificate released directly from the State of Hawaii. I will not trust a Vital Record based on the mere sworn testimony of an Obama relative (for example one of his grandparents), because there has already been a public spectacle made over a certain hospital being the place where Obama was born. If that is true, there will be an original birth certificate, complete with the delivering doctor’s signature.

    4) NBC = 1,2,3. Obama must prove birth on U.S. soil, to a U.S. citizen father, and a U.S. citizen mother. Anything less creates doubt (doubts voiced by the Supreme Court itself) about whether or not such a person can be considered a natural born citizen of the United States.

    5) Obama is stuck, because he has already admitted that his father was a British citizen, who passed British citizenship on to his son at birth. The only way he could have been born to a U.S. Citizen father was if his father wasn’t who he has claimed it was.

  15. C = 1.
    Birth on U.S. soil (1) is sufficient to make you a Citizen (C).
    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship based on U.S. birth. The 14th Amendment does not define Natural Born Citizenship, and the Supreme Court, more than six years after the ratification of the 14th Amendment, made it clear that the 14th amendment does not define Natural Born Citizenship.

    NBC = 1, 2, 3.
    Birth on U.S. soil (1), to a U.S. Citizen father (2), and a U.S. Citizen mother (3), is necessary to make you a Natural Born Citizen (NBC).

  16. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    Thats strange that the link doesn’t work – its the right address and if I cut and paste it into my browser window then it works fine, but doesn’t work through the link in the comments section.

    As for the Nordyke twin’s BC – nice try but she didn’t recently request them 0- thats something you are completely making up. Those extracts that she is holding were issued on the 5th of May 1966. See the photos of them here.

    Again, Hawaii has stated that a COLB is all that you will get now, nothing more and nothing less.

  17. Frin,

    Again, Hawaii has stated that a COLB is all that you will get now, nothing more and nothing less.

    Please link to the official statement by Dr. Fukino that substantiates your claim.

  18. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

    From that article:

    “When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called “long” and “short” forms.

    “They’re just words,” said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. “That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.”

    “There’s only one form of birth certificate,” she said, and it’s been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now.

    “When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site,” she said. “That’s the birth certificate.”

  19. Sorry Frin, that doesn’t cut it.

    I challenged you to link to the official statement by Dr. Fukino that substantiates your claim.

    I’m not looking for 2nd or 3rd-hand information. I’m looking for primary source information, in the form of official statements from the State of Hawaii.

    See my new post: “Words, Just Words“.

  20. Math says:

    So we can’t post second hand information, but you can post all the uncorroborated, third party BS you want? That’s not really fair is it? Most of the links you post point back to your or MM’s blog posts anyways, hardly an unbiased source wouldn’t you say?

  21. Math,

    You can post all the uncorroborated, third party BS you want, unless it becomes obscene or abusive.

    That’s fair, now isn’t it?

    If you think Michelle Malkin is biased, why don’t you try showing how the contents of her recent best-selling book are untrue?

    Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies

    The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

    The truth is that the State of Hawaii has the original vital records.

    The truth is that the State of Hawaii has not released the original vital records.

    The truth is that members of Congress have yet to look at the original vital records.

    The truth is that the original vital records could be missing a hospital birth certificate.

    The truth is that the original vital records could be simply the sworn statement of one of Obama’s relatives (for example, one of his Dunham grandparents).

    The truth is that the original vital records could also show an adoption by Lolo Soetoro and a legal name change from Barack Hussein Obama to Barry Soetoro.

    The truth is that even if the original vital records include a hospital birth certificate, proving Barack Hussein Obama II was born to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. at 7:24 PM on August 4, 1961 at the Kapi’olani Medical Center in Hawai‘i, the Supreme Court of the United States expressed doubts (that the 14th Amendment does not answer) that a child born on U.S. soil to a foreign father could be considered a “natural born citizen”.

    The truth is that Dr. Fukino can only verify Obama’s vital records. She is not legally qualified to issue a ruling on whether or not Barack Hussein Obama II (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen) is a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America. That is an issue for the United States Supreme Court.

    The truth is that if the vital records in Hawai’i show that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on U.S. soil, to two U.S. Citizen parents, then there is no doubt that he was born a natural born citizen.

    But for that to be the case, his father would have to be someone other than who he has claimed, and there would be significant issues of fraud.

    Two simple things need to happen in order to put this issue to rest…

    Members of Congress need to:

    1) Personally inspect a certified copy of Obama’s original birth certificate, sent to them under seal directly from the State of Hawaii. (Just as was done with the certification of the Electoral College vote)

    2) Ask the Supreme Court to clarify the meaning of the Constitutional phrase “Natural Born Citizen”, so that it can be clearly seen whether or not Barack Hussein Obama II is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President and Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces.

    Two very simple things.

    Why has so much effort been spent to fight against openness?

    Why has so much effort been spent to fight against transparency?

    Why has so much effort been spent to fight against accountability?

    Why has so much effort been spent to fight against supporting and defending the Constitution of the United Sates?

  22. Math says:

    Red: are you seriously telling me that Michelle Malkin is not biased? The only reason her book is selling well is the same reason Fox is #1 in cable news: there are a lot of idiots in the United States. Sorry to say it, but it’s true.

    Also, I’m not about to buy her book just to show you how its content is ridiculously biased. But I can understand how someone like you would get excited about it.

  23. Math says:

    I don’t know if this is going to work it’s the first time I try to embed video, but here goes. For once this guy says something that makes sense! Perhaps you should pay attention Red.

  24. Ryan says:

    Hey Mr. Pill!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/orly-taitz-melts-down-on_n_250441.html

    I just watched this interview with Orly Taitz. I cannot stop laughing. This is the women on whom you base your information? Are you certifiably insane? Even the EXTREME right wing people you claim to respect think she is bat sh*t crazy.

    Good luck my friend.

  25. Math,

    Red: are you seriously telling me that Michelle Malkin is not biased?

    Everyone has their own bias. Including me. Including you.

    The only reason her book is selling well is the same reason Fox is #1 in cable news: there are a lot of conservatives in the United States. Sorry to say it, but it’s true.

    I fixed that for you.

    Real people vote with real money. Their own, hard-earned money.

    Book sales across the board show strong evidence that America is a center-right, not center-left, nation.

    But when you can’t handle the truth, and you can’t attack the message, so you attack the messenger.

  26. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    From the DHHL website – is this official enough for you?

    “The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.”

    Note that it says that the State Department of Health no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth, they only issue Certification of Live Birth.

    Can you admit that you made up the story that Eleanor Nordyke had “A mother who gave birth to twins the day after Obama’s birth, has recently requested and received official copies of their original birth certificates. (Not COLBs).”

    Can you link to the official press release where Obama’s COLB was declared a forgery?

    Can you link to the official press release where the 1981 Pakistan travel ban was shown to be true?

    Its truely funny that you are pulling me up for producing a quote from a reputable news source, when your WHOLE argument is based on internet rumor and innuendo.

  27. Math,
    As to your linking the Bill O’Reilly video…

    O’Reilly has lost a lot of viewers, ever since he drank the Obama kool-aid. Many conservatives, including both Democrats and Republicans, no longer listen to O’Reilly.

    It’s interesting how you only link Fox News when O’Reilly has something negative and divisive to say about the Republican party… while with the same forked tongue he talks about the need for a “uniter, not a divider” for the party. The hypocrisy is unbelievable, on both his part and yours.

    The video shows O’Reilly claiming the following, with my rebuttals:

    many conservatives are focusing on dumb stuff like Obama’s birth certificate.

    Conservatives don’t think it’s “dumb stuff” to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    Conservatives don’t think it’s “dumb stuff” to expect our members of Congress to uphold their sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    Conservatives think it’s “dumb stuff” when members of Congress inspect one certificate sent to them under seal from the State of Hawaii (the certificate of the Electoral College vote), but not the other certificate that needs to be sent to them under seal from the State of Hawaii (Obama’s original birth certificate).

    Conservatives think it’s “dumb stuff” when members of the mainstream media aren’t smart enough to realize that Obama has never released any official document (either a Certification or a Certificate) directly from the State of Hawaii.

    Conservatives think it’s “dumb stuff” when members of the mainstream media aren’t smart enough to question whether or not Obama is telling the truth.

    Conservatives think it’s “dumb stuff” when members of the mainstream media aren’t smart enough to question whether a COLB released on Daily Kos along with the clearly forged COLB for Haye I.B Ahphorgerie, could possibly be a forgery as well. Especially when the hardcopy was produced AT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS IN CHICAGO and only shown to a small, controlled audience with Annenberg connections.

    Why would Mr. Obama release his birth certificate when those demanding it look unhinged?

    Oh, how about because he looks like a man with zero integrity, a complete and utter fraud, especially in light of what he himself said is the duty of the President to the American people:

    I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.

    Barack Hussein Obama

    Some conservatives personally attacked Judge Sotomayor. That was not smart.

    Interesting that he brings up Sotomayor, who was rightvully attacked for her racist remarks. Before the Senate can vote on her confirmation, they will have to uphold their sworn oath, support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and ensure that the man who nominated her is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President and make this nomination.

    Crazy far-right theories like the birth certificate deal help Mr. Obama marginalize his opponents. Republicans need a uniter.

    O’Reilly is being a divider, all the while calling for a uniter. What a hypocrite!

    The irony of the whole situation is that it is Obama who has become a uniter… he has united Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, etc. together with a single purpose: to stop this usurper and the Democratic Socialist Communist agenda.

  28. Ryan,

    Orly was in Tel Aviv, and looked very, very tired before the interview even began. She was probably jet-lagged and over tired. The anchors were smug and argumentative. The comment about the “driver” strongly suggests that they set that situation up in an attempt to smear her.

    Yes, she got very emotional. Yes, she could have done better. Yes, this interview doesn’t make her, or the larger movement, look good.

    But the good part about this is that the more people talk about the questions surrounding Obama’s birth, adoption, foreign citizenship, etc., the better.

    The more people talk about it, the more people realize the truth – that he has never released an official copy of his original birth certificate, and the only reason for him not to (especially in light of his former comments about the duty of the President to the American people) is that he is hiding something.

    Smart people realize that even with a birth in Hawaii, there are very real questions about Obama’s eligibility, becuase there are very real doubts that a person born in the U.S. to a foreign father can even be considered a natural born citizen.

    Citizen? Yes, by the 14th Amendment.

    Natural born citizen? There are significant doubts, even after the 14th Amendment. The Supreme Court of the United States said so in 1885.

  29. Frin,

    The DHHL website used to say the exact opposite, that a COLB was insufficient and an original certificate was required.

    They changed the web site as cover for Obama.

    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire….

  30. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    Oh of course, they are part of the conspiracy too… I forgot…

    Multiple sources saying the same thing – there is no such thing as long form or short form birth certificates. Accept it and move on.

    Care to admit you made up the story about Eleanor Nordyke? Or can you link to the official press release where it says that she requested those extracts recently?

  31. Ryan says:

    Orly is an idiot.

    All this talk of him being born in Kenya has only solidified the proof that he was not born there. There is simply not one shred of evidence that he was born in Kenya. Not one witness. Not one record in Kenya. Not one record in Britain.

    The only thing you have is that his dad was not American.

    And he admits that. And he’s president anyway, despite everybody knowing his dad was not American.

  32. Math says:

    Red: you seem to have any doubts that Sotomayor will be confirmed. And there won’t be any grand standing about Obama’s eligibility before it will happen, like you seem to think.

    And most conservatives don’t agree with your conspiracy theory, you give them a bad name (or should I say an even worse name) by associating them with your lunacy.

    And keep telling yourself that you don’t look unhinged. It seems that in your case, a lie really does become the truth if you repeat it enough. And if you keep this up long enough Obama will not even have to try to get reelected in 2012.

  33. Math says:

    Red: when I want to remind myself of how biased MM is, I pull out this: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/23/of-donuts-and-dumb-celebrities/
    That’s the first time I heard of MM. Pretty insane if you ask me. We should probably ban beards too just to be sure, because the terrorist wears them!

    I followed MM for a while because I found her entertaining (I guess I find insane people funny), but I gave up on her since the election when she started to obsess over Obama.

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