Need Original Certificate and Not Computer-Generated Certification

In order to process your application, DHHL [Department of Hawaiian Home Lands] utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification.

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4 Responses to Need Original Certificate and Not Computer-Generated Certification

  1. Pingback: How Congress Was Fooled « I Took The Red Pill (and escaped the Matrix)

  2. Frin says:

    Mr Pill,

    See Loren’s blog for a response to this posting – he lays it out very clearly.

  3. John says:


    I read enough of the article linked above to save you the trouble.

    It’s just another variation of “We don’t need to see the vault birth certificate (which would, shhh, admittedly provide more information and more reliable information than the public has yet seen, but shhh, quiet, don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t remember, don’t open your eyes yet!) because … OH, LOOK, OVER THERE IS ANOTHER SHINY MOVING OBJECT, LOOK OVER THERE!”

    It’s as though they still think we haven’t yet figured out this non-argument after noting a thousand variations of it.

    Just think: one document certified and embossed from the official registrar of births for a mere ten bucks could do infinitely more than all of this distracting noise “explaining” in ever more creative ways why that is so much harder to do than writing another three-act comedy!


  4. Frin says:


    What the article pointed out was that the references that Mr Pill was using to justify why a full BC is required, not a COLB, are ONLY relevant when dealing with establishing whether a person is a indigenous Hawaiian. In ALL other cases, a COLB is sufficient.

    You know, you might get a more coherent argument going if you could actually accept that some things that other people post might be relevant and correct.

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