OK, Speaker Pelosi, How Did the DNC Certify Obama’s Eligibility?

Nancy Pelosi and the DNC sent an Official Certification of Nomination to the Secretary of State in each of the 50 states.  Most of those certifications merely certified that Obama and Biden had been nominated.  Hawaii is different.  Hawaii requires that the party ALSO certify that the nominees are legally qualified, under the provisions of the United States Constitution, to serve in those offices.

Here is what Nancy Pelosi and the DNC sent to the Hawaiian Secretary of State:

dnc-official-certification-of-nomination-sent-to-hawaii

OK, Speaker Pelosi, How Did the DNC Certify Obama’s Eligibility?

The Constitution requires that Obama be a natural born citizen:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

The 1787 signers of the Constitution understood “natural born Citizen” as it was described in the 1758 book:

The Law of Nations, or Principles of The Law of Nature applied to the conduct and affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, Book 1, Sections 212 and 215:

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. … children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. … The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children … in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

§ 215. Children of citizens born in a foreign country.

It is asked whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed.(59) By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular …

The 14th Amendment does not speak to who is a natural born citizen, it only speaks to who is a citizen.  Qualifying as a citizen under the 14th Amendment does not automatically qualify someone as a natural born citizen.  One must look at the citizenship of the parents, as well as birth location, to determine if someone qualifies as a natural born citizen.

Divorce records show that Barack Hussein Obama married Stanley Ann Dunham Obama on February 2, 1961 and Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961.   Barack Hussein Obama  was never a United States citizen.  He was first a British subject, and later a citizen of Kenya. 

By Natural Law, The Law of Nations, and The British Nationality Act of 1948, British citizenship was passed from the father, Barack Hussein Obama, to his son, Barack Hussein Obama II. 

Barack Hussein Obama II’s own campaign admits this at http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Natural-born citizens are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

To be a natural born citizen of the United States, three conditions must be met:
1) Born “in the country” (on U.S. soil).
2) Born to a father who is a U.S. citizen.
3) Born to a mother who is a U.S. citizen.

If any one of those conditions is not met, then the person is not a natural born citizen of the United States, and they are not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States and Commander in Chief of all of our Armed Forces.

John Sydney McCain III fails to meet the first condition (he was born on Panamanian soil, not U.S. soil).  It is a lie to say that McCain was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone. He was not.  While the Certificate of Birth below says “The Panama Canal Health Department”, it shows that McCain was born at Colón Hospital in the city of Colón, Republic of Panama (R. P.).  The city of Colón was not in the Panama Canal Zone and was not U.S. soil.

mccain_certificate_of_birth1

Barack Hussein Obama II fails to meet the second condition (his father was not a United States citizen). He may also fail to meet the first condition (more evidence exists to show that he was born in Kenya than exists to show he was born in Hawaii), but that is superfluous. BHOII is already conclusively ineligible because he fails to meet the second condition, regardless of whether or not he meets the first condition.

So given that, I repeat my question:
Speaker Pelosi, How Did the DNC “Certify” Obama’s Eligibility?

Update:  Pelosi + Haiku = Pelosiku

O” eligible?
Natural Born Citizen?
Pelosi said so.

Would Pelosi lie?
Why would she ever do that?
“Son of this soil”.

UPDATE:  Pelosi and Obama share a tender moment after Obama supposedly signed Obamcare into law and handed Nancy one of the signing pens…

… except it’s not really law, because Obama is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President, so his signature on that bill means nothing.

UPDATE September 9, 2010:

Certificate of Nomination Summary
By butterdezillion

Why Pelosi and Germond Signed a Different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii

Two additional updates:
George Washington, John Jay, and the Natural Law Definition of “Natural Born Citizen”

Barry Belongs in Gitmo!

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UPDATE July 27, 2015:

Six and a half years after publishing this post, I have had it brought to my attention that John McCain IS eligible in the eyes of Vattel since he was “born in the armies of the state”.

I looked that up, and I believe they are correct.

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/249206-obama-jokes-about-his-birth-certificate-at-state-dinner-in-kenya#comment-2159554015

I stand corrected.

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34 Responses to OK, Speaker Pelosi, How Did the DNC Certify Obama’s Eligibility?

  1. Ted says:

    CHALLENGE (with answer), CAN ANYONE PROVE THIS WRONG?:–

    1. Constitution Article II requires USA President to be “natural born citizen”.

    2. BHO’s website admits his dad was Kenyan/British, not American, citizen when BHO was born.

    3. BHO is therefore not a “natural born citizen” (irrespective of Hawaiian birth or whether he may be a 14th Amendment “citizen” of USA) — confirmed in the Senate’s own McCain qualification resolution (that both parents must be citizens of USA) co-authored by BHO.

    4. Supreme Court has already docketed two upcoming conferences, 1/9/09 and 1/16/09 — between dates Congress counts electoral votes (1/8/09) and Presidential inauguration (1/20/09) — to address Berg Case and fashion relief on BHO’s eligibility to be President.

    5. Since the fact of BHO’s dad being Kenyan/British not in dispute, Supreme Court rules on Summary Judgment to enjoin BHO’s inauguration as President.

    6. Therefore, BHO is not inaugurated as President.

    7. Vice President Elect Biden is inaugurated Acting President under the 20th Amendment to serve until new President is determined — the procedure for which determination to be set out by Congress and/or the Supreme Court so long as in conformance with the Constitution.

    ANSWER TO ABOVE CHALLENGE

    IF, when counting the electoral votes, Congress WERE TO find by 1/8/09 that Obama — not being an Article II “natural born citizen” (father Kenyan/British, not American) — fails to qualify as President, Biden would become the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary) AND THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR DEFERRAL TO THE SUPREME COURT to enjoin Obama’s inauguration relegating Biden to being merely Acting President under the 20th Amendment until a new President were duly determined.

    (The preferable choice, at least for the Democrats, would seem obvious.)

  2. Ted,
    I think the 20th Amendment applies regardless of the timing. Unless Biden received Electoral College votes for President (rather than EC votes for Vice-President), then Obama’s failure to qualify must lead to someone else being President. If only Obama and McCain received EC votes for President, and both are ineligible, we would have a case where the eligible VP would serve as P until a President shall have qualified.

  3. Dexter Alarius says:

    I still don’t understand why this issue isn’t getting more (any!) attention out there… especially from the big name conservatives. Nary a peep is heard from Rush or Laura or Sean, etc. For the sake of our Constitution (and future candidates) this *must* be brought to resolution. I would think that the more noise is made about it, the more likely it will be resolved. The SCOTUS needs to stop pussy-footing around these stupid ‘standing’ issues and rule on the crux of it!

  4. Loren says:

    “(more evidence exists to show that he was born in Kenya than exists to show he was born in Hawaii)”

    What evidence? Other than the McRae audiotape (wherein Grandma Obama actually spends three minutes saying her grandson was born in Hawaii), what actual, documented evidence points specifically to Kenya? I’m particularly interested in evidence that existed before August, when Phil Berg filed a lawsuit claiming Obama was born in Kenya.

    For instance, in Berg’s complaint filed in August, he cites alleged statements by Obama’s grandmother, half-brother, and half-sister. But he’s never produced such statements, or even identified what his source for the claim was. It’s been five months, and he still hasn’t provided any names, dates, sources, or quotations for that claim.

    http://www.Barackryphal.com

  5. Loren,

    The grandma Obama audiotape is part of a legal affidavit in the hands of the Supreme Court. It alone is significant.

    If you want more, see “Son of This Soil

    Also there is the ambassador’s admission that it is “well-known” by Kenyans that Obama was born in Kenya.

  6. FeFe says:

    Check out the following quote from the link. Grimshaw is 0bamaII’s neighbor too:

    http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-file-42-obamas-socialist.html

    “In May Grimshaw was named to represent Barack Obama on the Credentials Committee for the Illinois Democratic Delegation to the Democratic National Convention in Denver.”

  7. FeFe,

    Thank you for your comment. Very Informative.

    Yes, Grimshaw is Soetoro/Obama’s next-door-neighbor on the non-Rezko side, and a close friend of the family… Hardly an unbiased person to represent Soetoro/Obama on the DNC Credentials Committee!

  8. Jax says:

    “Loren,

    The grandma Obama audiotape is part of a legal affidavit in the hands of the Supreme Court. It alone is significant.

    If you want more, see “Son of This Soil”

    Also there is the ambassador’s admission that it is “well-known” by Kenyans that Obama was born in Kenya.”

    In the sense that both the grandmother and her two translators spend half the audiotape telling the interviewer that Obama was not born in Kenya but, in fact, born in Hawaii, yes, the interview is extremely significant.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2206033/pagenum/2

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  13. Eight months late, but still nice to see WND give this wider visability…

    What does Pelosi know about Obama’s eligibility?
    Online images for certification of nomination raise questions
    Posted: September 11, 2009
    8:01 pm Eastern

  14. It has been advanced that both papers printed identical lists as the general rule. As I mentioned before, this was pointed out to add more “weight” to the (ahem) proof these newspaper birth announcements lend to obama’s birth story… So I pulled a sample size of ten days from each paper. I began the splendidly tedious process of comparing the incidence of the same birth announcements being listed in both papers. Mainly with an eye towards how often they matched in exact order.The only time this occurred in that particular way within the ten days that I researched, was on the dates that had obama’s birth announcements.

    And I even took the extra steps of comparing editions to a three day range (edition before, same date, edition after) of the sister publication. So, I tried to cover all the bases in a fair comparison.

    Well, OK. The ONE and ONLY time that the two papers published the birth list, beginning at the first announcement, in order, was in the editions that obama’s birth announcement appeared. This was indeed the only time that these announcements were printed this way, as the closest the papers came to doing this again never had all the same names listed in the exact same order. I figured the ten day sample would give conclusive data as to if this was uncommon.

    That wasn’t the only anomaly she found… follow the link for more.

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  17. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid both are not to be trusted. Any fool can
    see that obama is a Fraud. Why are so many people fearful to say
    that obama is a fraud. No one is standing up for our Constittution.

    WhAT IN HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND

  18. jane says:

    So Pelosi, nobody in Congress, as required by the 20th amendment, certified obama’s as qualified for office, so he’s therefore not president.
    “If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President … the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

    Now Biden didn’t act as president, (or did he?) since obama failed to qualify…the congress pretended obama was president and did not appoint a temp until someone did qualify…

    everyone ffed up

  19. Jane,

    Thank you for your comment.

    I think at least part of the problem is that members of Congress were more concerned with public opinion than supporting and defending the Constitution. Not only had Obama won the election, but between early November and early January (when the new, more heavily Democrat Congress was called upon to certify the electoral college vote) public support for Obama had only grown stronger.

    I’m going to write a new post as soon as the rolling 30-day average of those who Strongly Disapprove of Obama passes and exceeds the the rolling 30-day average of his Total Approval (those who Strongly Approve plus those who only somewhat Approve). I haven’t seen anyone else portray the data as a rolling 30-day average, nor portray the data from the election onward. I’ll show all of that, and it’s already very enlightening, in my opinion, becuause you see how a large number of those who did not approve of Obama at election time decided to unify behind him between the election and the inauguration. He reached 68% approval, and a large amount of that was strong approval.

    Those in Congress who think (wrongly) that our nation is a “Democracy”, were of the mindset that “the people have spoken…and Obama is our new President”. Those who know that our nation is a “Republic” (the rule of LAW, not the rule of the MAJORITY), should have supported and defended the Constitution. At an absolute minimum, they should have done their due dililgence and inspected the birth certificates of both Obama and Biden. Beyond that, they should have asked the Supreme Court to clear up the doubts that they themselves acknowledged in two different Cases in the nineteenth century… doubts about whether or not a person in Barack’s situation could be considered a “natural born citizen” because his father was never a U.S. citizen.

    Once Obama took office, his approval ratings plummeted. And then they plummeted again when Al Franken was seated as their filibuster-breaking 60th Senator and they started railroading Obamacare upon a public that did not want it.

  20. jane says:

    NBC is a logic concept.
    Minor v. Happersett states no 14ther (statutory US citizen) can be NBC.
    NBC is not mentioned in 14th, nor defined therein, which makes sense since NBCs require no statutes (they have but one choice of citizenship).
    All permutations of blood and birthplace, except jus soli jus sanguinis both parents, are outlined in the 14th.
    Therefore by exclusion NBC must mean jus soli jus sanguinis both parents. There is no other option (for humans).

  21. Now, there is a distinct possibility that that online image is just as authentic (i.e., just as fraudulent) as the “Obama COLB”.

    Obama, Biden, McCain, and Palin should all have authorized the release of a certified hard copy of their birth certificate, and the Secretary of State in each of the 50 states should have inspected those documents before putting their names on the ballot. In addition, Congress should have supported and defended Section 3 of the 20th Amendment and inspected the birth certificates of Obama and Biden before certifying the Electoral College vote.

  22. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html

    Given that Roberta, John’s mother, says that the officer’s club was “nearby”, does that necessarily mean that the birthplace was on-base, vs. at nearby Colon Hospital?

  23. When a woman finds out that she is pregnant, she has plenty of time to return to the U.S. if she wants her child to be born on U.S. soil.

    I would be agree that U.S. military bases on foreign soil should be treated as U.S. soil, just as U.S. embassies on foreibn soil are treated as U.S. soil.

    But I would like to see hard copy documentary proof that John McCain was born on the U.S. Naval base.

    To quote Vattel, from sections 212 and 215 of
    The Law of Nations, or Principles of The Law of Nature applied to the conduct and affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, Book 1:

    § 212. Citizens and natives.

    natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. … children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. … The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children … in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

    § 215. Children of citizens born in a foreign country.

    It is asked whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed.(59) By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular …

    “By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular …”

    By the law of nature alone,
    John McCain follows the condition of his U.S. citizen father, and
    Barack Obama follows the condition of his British subject father.

    The only US law that has ever employed the exact term “natural born citizen” is the Naturalization Act of 1790:

    And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an act of the legislature of the state in which such person was proscribed.

    This law was passed by the First Congress, which counted among its members nearly half of the signers of the Constitution (and was signed into law by a president who was also a signer of the Constitution), so it may give some insight into the intention behind this provision. However, the 1790 act was repealed in 1795, and no subsequent law or court decision has clearly defined “natural born Citizen”.

    We don’t know why the act was repealed in 1795. We don’t know if those who repealed it agreed or disagreed with the provision that “children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered natural born citizens”.

    John McCain would be considered a “natural born citizen” under that act which was passed in 1790 and repealed in 1795.

    Hence, there is a fairly strong case for saying that McCain should be considered a “natural born” U.S. citizen.

    The opposite is true of Obama. He was born a British subject because his father was a British subject. His own campaign web site admitted that. And someone born a British subject cannot also be a natural born U.S. citizen. Dual citizen, perhaps, but not a natural born U.S. citizen.

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  25. Obama must be removed NOW
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – April 14, AD 2011 8:27 AM MST

    Barack Obama, or whatever his name is – and it is becoming more and more clear that we literally do not know who or what this man is – MUST be removed from office immediately. He is an enemy usurper and the entire Executive Branch of our government is today illegitimate, illegal, and seditious. This includes the Department of Justice.

    Whether we want to believe it or not, the objective of the usurping force that I will henceforth refer to as “the Obama regime” is and always has been the overthrow of the United States of America and its rule of law under the Constitution. Given the size and power, both economically and militarily, of the United States, the only way to destroy it is from within. This is what is happening right now. An induced economic collapse, coupled with an induced multi-theater war is the planned means of finally collapsing and overthrowing the government of the United States.

    The Libyan action and the Obama regime’s insertion of U.S. assets into that theater is merely a shaping action – a positioning of pieces on a chessboard in anticipation of a checkmate. The Libyan action, which they admit has no tactical plan or defined objective of any kind, is merely establishing the precedent of the Executive Branch unilaterally taking the United States to war with NO legal, constitutional or Congressional involvement – all in the name of “human rights”.

    The real target in all of this is Israel. The Obama regime has passively watched, and even supported and fomented behind the scenes, the destabilization of the muslim world. Through this, they are enabling and encouraging a muslim attack against Israel. If Israel defends itself, the Obama regime will then use this as an excuse to move U.S. assets AGAINST ISRAEL ITSELF. This will trigger World War 3.

    Obama is not the POTUS. Obama is not the CIC. Further, the entire Executive Branch is illegitimate, and so all military orders coming from the Executive / CIC are illegitimate and illegal. Do our field commanders in all of the service branches know and understand this? Do the sub skippers know and understand this? If orders come down for the USS Enterprise or USS Carl Vinson carrier groups to steam toward Israel, what will they do? Are we really willing to watch and wait and potentially force our military and naval commanders to make the decision whether or not to fire on an ally of the United States? Are we that crippled by our own moral cowardice?

    The Obama regime MUST be removed NOW. Usurpation and sedition is not something that can be “ridden out until the next election”.

    Ann Barnhardt
    Lone Tree, CO
    14 April 2011 AD

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  27. Craig Campo says:

    Its amazing to me that after 2 years we are still having this discussion. If the Constitution was being held to the written word…Obama would be history! It has nothing to do with him being born on American soil…it has to do with the fact his Father was NEVER a U.S. citizen by his own admission in his book (which he did not write). We need to be content with the boneless, spineless, pieces of chicken that represent the people of the United States that they cannot uphold the Constitution and carry out the JUSTICE of escorting this IMPOSTER from OUR HOUSE! What is it going to take? Seems like no person will stand up for OUR RIGHTS as given to us by the framers of the Constitution which we have proudly held as the ‘LAW OF THE LAND”. God Help Us!

  28. Craig,
    Thank you for your comment.

    Its amazing to me that after 2 years we are still having this discussion.

    Indeed.

    If the Constitution was being held to the written word…Obama would be history!

    True. He’s either a usurper, a fraud, or both!

    It has nothing to do with him being born on American soil…it has to do with the fact his Father was NEVER a U.S. citizen by his own admission

    No member of Congress fulfilled their obligations under Section 3 of the 20th Amendment. No member of Congress has qualified the President and Vice President. No member of Congress has ever inspected a birth certificate to verify the “Obama birth narrative”. How do you know that it is a “fact his Father was NEVER a U.S. citizen”? Sure, Barack Hussein Obama was never a U.S. citizen, but how do we know that he is the father of Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama II), other than “by his own admission”? No officially-certified vital record has ever been sent under seal from the State of Hawaii to the U.S. Congress to establish that as a “fact”.

    That’s why both issues matter:

    1) Trust, but Verify

    2) “Natural” born citizen

    If Barry’s father is who he claims it is, then he was born a British subject, not a natural born citizen of the United States.

    If Barry’s father isn’t who he claimed it is, then he is guilty of crimes including forgery, perjury, obstruction of justice, etc.

    Either way, Barry Belongs in Gitmo!

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  30. White House Posts PDF of Certificate of Live Birth

    Obama should have no problem, then, asking the State of Hawaii to send an officially certified copy of the long-form Certificate directly to Congress under seal, just as was done for this certificate and this certificate.

    Make it official. Have Hawaii send an officially certified copy of it, under seal, directly to the Congress.

    Congress, not the media after all, has the Constitutional duty to ensure that the President and Vice President have qualified:

    … if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    – From Section 3 of the 20th Amendment

    If Obama balks at having the State of Hawaii send an official copy directly to Congress under seal, then that should set off flashing red sirens that the “document” just produced for the media is actually fraudulent.

    If Obama does have the State of Hawaii send an official copy directly to Congress under seal, then we can put issue #1 behind us (Trust, but Verify), and move on to issue #2 (“Natural” born citizen).

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