Usurper, Not Virgin

I know that the primary issue that disqualifies Obama from “natural born citizen” status is the acknowledgement on “Fight the Smears” that both Barack and his father were British subjects at the time of Barack’s birth.

I know that the birth certificate issue is only secondary, but the fact that Obama is working so hard to prevent it being seen is very telling, indeed.

The only document that has been produced absolutely screams, “Hey! I Be A Forgery!”, and is no less of a forgery than the supposed COLB for “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie“.

Please follow that link, as well as the two subsequent links.

FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD!!!

But with friends like these, how can anyone be so gullible as to believe that Obama is “the only virgin in the whorehouse“?

Every indication is that he is a dirty politician from the city that is home to the Communist Party USA, and he is a usurper: not Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces.

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23 Responses to Usurper, Not Virgin

  1. Jax says:

    Red, since it’s after the 15th, I believe the correct title is President-Elect Barack Obama. I know how concerned you are with correct titles, so I’m sure this was just an oversight.

  2. Jax,

    I guess the appropriate title for Obama now is:

    President elect who has failed to qualify

    Longer answer in comment below…

  3. …natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

    But don’t just take my word for it.

    The Supreme Court has, by their denial of the stay applications, made it clear that they are not going to intervene in the Presidential Election process at THIS POINT, but they have also made it clear (by discussing multiple cases in conference and NOT denying Certiorari in any of them) that they are leaving options open to act if the Congress fails to uphold their oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    I guess the appropriate title for Obama now is:

    President elect who has failed to qualify

    20th Amendment, Section 3

    … if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified…

    This is not a case of “guilty until proven innocent”. It is a case of “unqualified until proven qualified”.

    The 12th amendment makes it clear that both the the Vice-President must qualify, as well:

    But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

    Unfortunately for Obama, he has already proven that he is UNqualified because he openly admits that both his father and he were British subjects at the time of his birth.

    Since the Congress has already made it clear that they believe John McCain is a natural born citizen, the correct thing for them to do is to certify John McCain for President and Joe Biden for Vice-President (assuming that Biden can prove that he qualifies as a natural born citizen).

    The Supreme Court could still rule that McCain does not qualify as a natural born citizen. If that happens, we would have the first time in our nation’s history when all of the candidates for President who received Electoral College votes are constitutionally ineligible to hold the office. There would be no eligible Presidential candidates on the “list of those voted for as President”, so it would be impossible for “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President” from this list.

    The 20th Amendment gives Congress the freedom to

    by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    But the 20th amendment does not make it clear how to get a qualified President when the list is empty.

    Perhaps the states would be told to recall their Electors and vote again for President, this time only voting for qualified candidates.

    By the way, most people think there are only three qualifications for President:
    1) natural born citizen
    2) 35 years old or older
    3) minimum 14 years residence in USA.

    There is something else that can disqualify a candidate…

    Violation of Section 3 of the 14th amendment.

  4. Ted says:

    EASY WAY TO MAKE SURE OBAMA NEVER GETS INAUGURATED (READ CAREFULLY):–

    Since the Supreme Court has now prevented itself from acknowledging the question of whether Barack H. Obama is or is not an Article II “natural born citizen” based on the Kenyan/British citizenship of Barack Obama’s father at the time of his birth (irrespective of whether Barack Obama is deemed a “citizen” born in Hawaii or otherwise) as a prerequisite to qualifying to serve as President of the United States under the Constitution — the Court having done so three times and counting, first before the Nov 4 general election and twice before the Dec 15 vote of the College of Electors — it would seem appropriate, if not necessary, for all Executive Branch departments and agencies to secure advance formal advice from the United States Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel as to how to respond to expected inquiries from federal employees who are pledged to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States” as to whether they are governed by laws, regulations, orders and directives issued under Mr. Obama during such periods that said employees, by the weight of existing legal authority and prior to a decision by the Supreme Court, believe in good faith that Mr. Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen”.

  5. Jax says:

    Red,

    No court ruling, EVER, has set the precedent that you are talking about. You’re basing your entire argument on the idea that an American citizen, born in America, cannot be considered a “natural-born citizen” if they share citizenship through a parent at birth. You are making it up. You are going to link to other sites. THEY are making it up. If you have one court decision, one measly lower appellate court opinion that sets this precedent, please cite it or stop wasting everyone’s time. No matter what your intellectual insights into the minds of the Founding Fathers when they set the criteria of the natural-born citizen, that is not your job. We have a Supreme Court of the United States for that, and they’re not going to do what you tell them to do, no matter how hard you stamp your feet or how long you hold your breath. You are not a Supreme Court Justice. You are unqualified. Ironic, huh? You lost. It happens. Move on.

    Ted,

    So all that has to happen is for every federal employee to call the Department of Justice and let them know that they don’t plan to follow the orders of the new Commander in Chief? Wow, that WILL be easy! Never mind that you’re talking about a Department of Justice that is about to undergo a major staff change and most of the people who work there have cleaned out their desks right now, the fact that in this severe economic recession federal employees desperately need these jobs, OR the fact that Barack Obama received 600,000 applications for 3,000 jobs in his administration and could fill any federal opening in just a little less than a heartbeat. I think you’ve got a winner here, Ted, and I hope you’ll be marching out in front of this movement. Wear a big, shiny tinfoil hat so we know it’s you, would you?

  6. In Wong Kim Ark, the court thoroughly discussed “natural born citizen”. And in doing so, Justice Gray quoted directly from the holding in a prior Supreme Court case, Minor v. Happersett. The following passage is a quote from Minor as quoted by Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark:
    ” ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.’ Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168.”

    (Emphasis added.)

    Look at that, you have Justice Gray citing the court in Minor who are themselves citing the “Laws of Nations” definition (they didn’t directly cite that treatise but the definition used is taken therefrom) of natural born citizen = person born in US to “citizen parents” = nbc .

    In Minor, they clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” beyond any doubt, a definition that does not include Obama. As to persons born in the US to foreign parents they said, as directly quoted in Wong Kim Ark by Justice Gray, As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

    UPDATE: 12:11 PM …(thanks to reader “rossalgondamer” for pointing out the following). The Court in Minor refused to say that a person born in the US to parents who were foreigners was a ” natural born citizen” – as I’ve stated in the original post here – but the reader points out that the Minor court also refused to say whether such a person was even a “citizen” at all.

    Source

  7. Jax says:

    “In Minor, they clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” beyond any doubt, a definition that does not include Obama.”

    Where, exactly, are you getting that from what you posted? Because if what you posted is the pertinent quote from the argument, Red, that Supreme Court seat is receding farther and farther into the distance. The most hay you could make out of that statement is to say that at one time, a Justice said in his write-up of a decision that there was a doubt as to whether a child born in the U.S. of foreign parentS (note the plural there, Red) could be considered a natural-born citizen. Not a child who was born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen, as Obama was. The United States Constitution does not recognize the soverignty of other nations in deciding who is a citizen, foreign-born or otherwise.

    Not only are you twisting facts to suit your arguments, you’re twisting other arguments to fit the facts you’re twisting to suit your arguments, and deliberately obscuring everything that doesn’t fit. Again, this is why the Supreme Court makes rulings on the highest points of Constitutional law, and you write a blog.

  8. liberty4usa says:

    There is no doubt that Obama is not qualified to take the office he was elected to under the current natural born citizen interpretation and all the precedence known on the issue.
    SCOTUS is yet to write any dissenting reason for rejecting the stay requests in any of the suits so far. The issue though will not, and cannot just go away. It will be continuously brought up as it will be widely believed that he is seated as an usurper which makes any and all laws signed by him invalid.
    That is the reality, and it was created by Obama himself, not those questioning him!
    The further along it goes , the uglier the situation will become.
    The public opinion shield that Obama uses will not save him but will cause public unrest.
    Personally I wish he could prove he was eligible and put it all to rest.
    Since he won’t ,and he is forcing the issue counting on political force overcoming constitutional force.
    The national poll being conducted by AOL shows 52% of the people believe that this eligibility question has merit, 46% don’t, and 2% are unsure! ( the poll is not scientific)
    This does not bode well for the quiet disappearance of this issue.
    Seriously Biden scares me more than Obama, and judging by the percent of votes he received in his own presidential run, others agree!

  9. Phil says:

    I took the red pill — thank you for bringing light to this issue. I know like you that Obama is not a citizen and he is not eligible to become president. Keep up your good work. I tell everybody I know that Obama is not a citizen, and they laugh at me. They do not understand what the truth is.

    Are you persecuted too for your views? I am. The government sends aliens after me. It seems like every night they poke and they prod me and take back to their ship. I have been experimented on by the aliens. I know that Obama sends them to see me. Obama is trying to silence me before I am able to convince the world that he is really British. Does he send the aliens after you too? If not, what does he do to you? Does he send the voices out after you? I am constantly hearing these voices that threaten me if I keep on talking about how the constitution is being ignored. I can’t stop the voices. I am sure that like me, you are probably also a victim of this persecution. Are you? I would like to discuss this issue further with you. You might be able to help me get rid of the aliens and the voices. Can you help?

  10. liberty4usa,

    Thank you for an excellent comment. I’m going to respond to it in pieces…

    There is no doubt that Obama is not qualified to take the office he was elected to under the current natural born citizen interpretation and all the precedence known on the issue.

    There is no doubt that Obama is not qualified if the truth is as Team Obama presents it on Fight the Smears The Truth About Barack’s Birth Certificate:

    Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

    Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

    The founders who wrote our Constitution in 1787 understood “natural born citizen” as it was defined in the 1758 book
    The Law of Nations,
    or
    Principles of The Law of Nature applied to the conduct and affairs of Nations and Sovereigns
    :

    natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

    The “natural” in “natural born citizen” comes from principles of The Law of Nature applied to the conduct and affairs of Nations. Most people today don’t have an understanding of “The Law of Nature” i.e. “Natural Law“.

    If the truth is as Team Obama presents it, then Barack Hussein Obama is not a natural born citizen.

    You and I are in complete agreement on that.

    If the truth is something different than Team Obama presents it, (for example if his father is someone other than Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.), then Barry has other issues.

  11. Phil,

    I think you are an alien.

    I was once an alien, too, but not anymore :-)

  12. SCOTUS is yet to write any dissenting reason for rejecting the stay requests in any of the suits so far.

    True, and the Court has only refused to stay the process in the Legislative Branch. The Court has not “refused to hear” the cases, a lie that the “Mainstream” media incessantly repeats.

    The Court HAS “heard the cases” by distributing them for conference and discussing them in conference. The Court has not refused certiorari in any of them. It could very well be that the Court (the Judicial branch) will not interrupt the Legislative branch, but will make a ruling on Soetoro/Obama’s eligibility if the Legislative branch doesn’t honor their sworn oath.

    The issue though will not, and cannot just go away. It will be continuously brought up as it will be widely believed that he is seated as an usurper which makes any and all laws signed by him invalid.

    Indeed.

    That is the reality, and it was created by Obama himself, not those questioning him!

    Yes, Obama Creating a “Constitutional Crisis” and he has only himself to blame.

    The further along it goes , the uglier the situation will become.

    Indeed. It cannot be “swept under the rug”. The problem only gets bigger the longer it goes unaddressed.

    The public opinion shield that Obama uses will not save him but will cause public unrest.
    Personally I wish he could prove he was eligible and put it all to rest.

    He can’t put it to rest. If the truth is as he presents it, he’s unqualified. If the truth is something other than what he has said, then he exposes himself as a liar and a fraud. He’s stuck.

    Since he won’t ,and he is forcing the issue counting on political force overcoming constitutional force.
    The national poll being conducted by AOL shows 52% of the people believe that this eligibility question has merit, 46% don’t, and 2% are unsure! ( the poll is not scientific)
    This does not bode well for the quiet disappearance of this issue.

    The issue only grows bigger with time, as more and more people become aware of the issue. It’s going viral, despite the all attempts to hide the truth and silence those who speak it.

    Those who can’t handle the truth
    try to silence those who speak it.

  13. Ted says:

    THIS AMAZING (YET TYPICAL) RESPONSE FROM A REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBER (IDAHO CONG SIMPSON) — THE 3 BRANCHES OF GOVT ARE NOW PERFECTLY WILLING TO CONTINUE WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION:–

    “You mentioned your opinion on the citizenship of President-elect Obama. The Supreme Court has turned down the appeal that questioned the eligibility of President-elect Obama to hold the office of President. The Court did not comment on its order. Barack Obama will be inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States on January 20, 2009. I look forward to working with the new administration to continue serving Idahoans throughout the 111th Congress.”

  14. liberty4usa says:

    The summary of the Broe Vs Reed case in Washington state is very clear on all the issues surrounding the eligibility.

    So clear, even an Alien could understand it.

    http://decalogosintl.org/?p=65

  15. Jax says:

    Red,

    You realize you’re just linking to yourself and adding the word “Indeed” afterword, right?

  16. liberty4usa says:

    I think the problem is that the words of Obama,
    never match the deeds of Obama:

    Words such as “openness and transparency”.

    The media would have blasted any Republican out of the water with constant news stories on this from the first hint of a problem, and probably planned to do so with MCain had he won!

  17. No Jax, I’m saying “Indeed” after quoting what liberty4usa said in his earlier comment.

    Yes, I link to some of my prior posts to show how what I have written is in agreement with liberty4usa, but I’m saying “Indeed” about what liberty4usa wrote, not what I wrote.

  18. liberty4usa said:

    I think the problem is that the words of Obama,
    never match the deeds of Obama:

    Words such as “openness and transparency”.

    Indeed. But he can’t be open, honest, and transparent about his original birth certificate, because if he released it people would instantly see that it doesn’t match the information on the COLB forgery that was photoshopped by the KOS kiddies.

  19. Ryan says:

    Liberty – You point to the summary of the Broe Vs Reed case – but it is a summary of the ARGUMENTS for the case by the complainant. Not the ruling. Nice try.

    This should end all arguments:

    The following case mirrors the Obama argument. In this case neither of the woman’s parents were US citizens, and the woman had returned to her parent’s native country in childhood, only to have her citizenship questioned upon return to the US. The Supreme Court ruled that she was a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

    Perkins v. ELG, 307 U.S. 325 (1939): The U.S. Supreme Court concluded that Marie Elizabeth Elg who was born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized in the United States, had not lost her birthright U.S. citizenship because of her removal during minority to Sweden and was entitled to all the rights and privileges of that U.S. citizenship. In this case, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the decree that declared Miss Elg “to be a natural born citizen of the United States.”

  20. Jax says:

    No, I got what you were quoting, Red. I was just pointing out that people tend to put up links to cite legitimate sources, not their own opinions. I think liberty4usa understands that you agree with him.

  21. liberty4usa says:

    Liberty – You point to the summary of the Broe Vs Reed case – but it is a summary of the ARGUMENTS for the case by the complainant. Not the ruling. Nice try

    Yes, That is what I meant to say, of course the case itself is not decided.

    The rest of your claim about Elg mirroring Obamas situation is not known, either way.

    The mirror though is a fitting segue into Obama’s Narcissism however-

    The reason that Obama is trying to become president when he obviously is not qualified for the position, and the reason that he is defended fiercly by his minions, is most likely the same reason that that others have beed duped in the past by a pathological narcissists such as Obama.
    This is a race against time. Should his power grow as with other notorious narcissists, before enough people wake up to reality, everything this country was, will be no more.
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/obama/future.html

  22. liberty4usa,

    Should his power grow as with other notorious narcissists, before enough people wake up to reality, everything this country was, will be no more.

    Indeed. The rise of this Democratic Socialist mirrors the rise of a National Socialist in Germany.

    Some on the left have been saying “BushHitler” for years, but “ObamaHitler” is a far closer analogy.

    Obama’s “family friend” Bill Ayers founded a group which actively planned for the extermination of 25 million people.

    Obama’s Affinity to Cold-Blooded Killers

    Exit Question:
    Didn’t the location of Obama’s speech in Germany have significance to Hilter?

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