Evangelicals and Mormons Getting Along

“Can’t we all just get along?”


We can agree to disagree on theology, and treat each other with love and respect.  That was my goal when I posted:

The topic of this thread is Mitt Romney, so discussing Mitt Romney and his beliefs is on topic.

For the record, I would trust Mitt Romney with the Presidency more than I would trust John McCain.

I may have faith differences with Romney, but Romney has not shown the Socialist tendencies that McCain has.

Mitt Romney is a good and honorable man, as are most Mormon/LDS men. I appreciate the good works done by most Mormons/LDS. I appreciate the good family lives of most Mormons/LDS. I appreciate the conservative voting record of most Mormons/LDS. All of these things are good for our country, and I sincerely appreciate them.

It is true that Mormons/LDS have spiritual beliefs that are significantly different from the rest of people who consider themselves Christian. While there are differences between Catholic and Protestant Bibles (there are a few additional books in the Catholic Bible), the overwhelming majority of sacred text is the same, and split into old and new testaments. Go to a site like Biblegateway.com and you will find the Bible in many different languages and versions.

Mormons/LDS believe that a third testament, the Book of Mormon, was given to Joseph Smith, and this third testament is their primary focus. Go to scriptures.lds.org and you will find that in addition to the Old and new Testaments they have the Book of Mormon, which they consider “ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST”. That third testament portrays Jesus Christ as not the Son of God, but a son of God.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not put its focus on Jesus Christ as the one and only Son of God, it puts its focus on its members becoming Latter-day Saints… that is on becoming another Jesus on another planet. Evidence on this focus of becoming Latter-day Saints (LDS) can be seen in the official URL of the church…lds.org.

I do not hate Mormons/LDS, although many hate me. They believe that I only have “part of the truth”, i.e. the Old and New Testaments, but not the Book of Mormon. They believe that it is Heavenly Father, not Jesus Christ, who is the “Good News”. They believe that Lucifer and Jesus Christ were brothers, and that I am the spawn of Satan. That’s OK, I love them anyway, because Jesus Christ of Nazareth taught me to.

Mormons/LDS, my heart truly goes out to you because most of you are very good people, but your plan of salvation is hopeless. It is your heart’s desire to dwell with Heavenly Father for time and all eternity, but ask yourself the following questions:

If you died today and the judgment was held tomorrow, have you met the requirements for dwelling in Heavenly Father’s celestial kingdom?

Do you know that you are forgiven?

What are the requirements for you to obtain God’s total pardon of all sin forever; and can it even be done?

An ex-Mormon (someone with first-hand experience both inside and outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) explains The Way to Heavenly Father by LDS Doctrine compared to the Bible’s Good News.

Red Pill on April 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM

In response to that, I received the following comment on this blog:

Natalie Says: April 18, 2008 at 7:23 pm 
As a member of the LDS church, I first want to say that I appreciated your kindness in your post at HA. I also want to say that the vast majority of Mormons do not hate or even dislike other Christians (those who do are not living as they should). We also absolutely do NOT think that you are the spawn of Satan. It is true that we believe there is more to the Gospel than only the Bible, but we try to tell others about our beliefs out of love and because we want to share something that makes us happy. No member of the LDS church should ever try to force others to believe what we believe.I wanted to clarify a very, very important part of our doctrine. We believe that every one of us is a spiritual son or daughter of God the Father, but we believe that Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the Father (see John 3:16). There is a HUGE difference in that; because of this, Jesus is God, and that is why He was able to resurrect and why He was (is) perfect, and it’s also why He was able to atone for every single person.We consider ourselves Christian because we believe that Christ is our Savior. We obviously have differences in our doctrine, but we do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Savior of the world, and the only one who can save us.I don’t usually try to clarify these things, people like Saint Olaf won’t listen either way. But I was impressed with your post because you seemed sincere rather than just spouting non-sense. I hope you found this interesting and that you take it into account.

Thank you,

I also have been very impressed with Mormon Doc.  He has been courageously honest about why he doesn’t support Romney, and he has been absolutely cordial to both Saint Olaf and myself

It is of paramount importance that Christians speak the truth in love. Always the truth, and always spoken in love. That is Jesus Christ’s example to us and for us, and it is our duty and honor to follow His example.

I know that I fall short of that example a lot myself. And I believe that SaintOlaf falls short, too. It appears SaintOlaf believes it is loving just to speak Biblical truth, no matter how harshly he delivers the message. I believe it is vitally important to speak Biblical truth, but to do so in a way that clearly communicates your love for the other person. If the other person does not sense love in your words, you have become a clanging cymbal to them.

I’ve tried to remind SaintOlaf of this.

Evangelicals and Mormons don’t have to fight each other. In fact, the bible says that our struggle is not against flesh and blood (each other), but rather it is spiritual warfare:

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Ephesians 6:12 (New International Version)

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