First, open the following URL in a new tab or new window:
http://news.google.com/newspapers/p/deseret_news?nid=Aul-kAQHnToC&dat=19521002&printsec=frontpage
Then, scroll right… so that the electronic reader says “Page 4 of 31″, but the actual newspaper page shown is page 6A.
Note the following in the Oct 2, 1952 edition of The Deseret News and Telegram:
Multiple Hat Tips:
Miri at We The People of the United States (WTPOTUS.wordpress.com), who gives a hat tip to patlin at Free Republic who found an article by Linda Bentley on September 22, 2010 at the Sonoran News entitled:
Ike needed birth certificate to run for president
‘Ike had nothing to hide!’
That article gives credit to “Glen Fairclough, a reader from Salt Lake City, Utah” for going through digital images online of his hometown newspaper, the Deseret News and Telegram, and finding the United Press wire article from the Oct. 2, 1952 edition:
The article appeared on page 6A with a dateline of Sherman, Texas. It was headlined: “General’s birth certificate officially filed,” and stated, “A certificate recording Dwight Eisenhower’s birth in Denison on Oct. 14, 1890, was filed Wednesday [Oct. 1, 1952] in the Grayson County Clerk’s office.
“Nobody had bothered to make out a certificate when the Republican presidential candidate was born in a house at the corner of Lamar and Day streets in nearby Denison.
“A copy of the certificate filed Wednesday was mailed to Mrs. Eisenhower in Denver. Eisenhower’s older brother, Arthur, signed the certificate. It was also signed by the Grayson County Judge J.N. Dickson and recorded by County Clerk J.C. Buchanan.”
All I’ve added to this find is that I have located the URL for the online images of the Oct. 2, 1952 edition of the Deseret News and Salt Lake Telegram, so that anyone can verify for themselves that this historical find is real.
Donald Trump on the View: Obama Needs to Show His Birth Certificate – 3/23/2011
Nice of the racist Whoopie Goldberg to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race.
Yes, white men have been challenged on the “natural born citizen” requirement found in Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution. John McCain and Dwight Eisenhower are two examples.
Whoopi’s attack was nothing more than leftist flailing. She played the race-card–to no one’s surprise–and thus violated Godwin’s Law.
“W” had nothing to hide, either…
Thanks for the hat tip, Red Pill. Thanks for writing this post, too! I have some other examples of Ike stories. I may do a follow up post on WTPOTUS. From reading these other stories, it becomes apparent that Ike’s eligibility via his lack of a birth certificate WAS questioned. There was, at the time, a protocol in Texas whereby they asked candidates to prove eligibility for the office. The Sonoran News article you linked says that his need for a birth certificate came to the forefront when he decided to run for the presidency. I read another story that said a lawyer asked him for it. And so this puts the lie to Whoopi’s claim that nobody asked “white” presidents for their birth certificates. When asked, Ike got his birth certificate and he did so out in the open, with transparency.
Amen, Miri!
Attorney Mario Apuzzo now has a post up about this very thing:
The racist Whoopie Goldberg thinks it’s racist to ask a “black man” to produce his long-form birth certificate.
The racist Whoopie Goldberg thinks that no “white man” has ever been asked to produce his birth certificate.
The racist Whoopie Goldberg is wrong, and she needs to apologize.
And by the way….
If the racist Whoopie Goldberg wants to hear what a hard-core racist sounds like, listen to this Anti-Obama, racist, hate speech!
The racist Malik Zulu Shabazz is wrong, and he needs to apologize.
Exclusive to Newsmax: Donald Trump’s Birth Certificate
The gauntlet has been thrown…
There is a little difference between Ike and Obama. If you bother to read the article you linked:
“Nobody had bothered to make out a birth certificate when the Republican presidential candidate was born in a house at the corner of Lamar and Day streets in nearby Denison.”
This clearly says that Eisenhower NEVER HAD a birth certificate before running for President. Obama’s COLB states that it was filed on August 8th 1961. Ike’s certificate would have stated that it was filed sometime in 1952.
What was the point of all this again?
The point is that Eisenhower was required to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President by filing a birth certificate when he ran for the office in 1952.
Obama has never filed, and has never authorized the release of, his birth certificate.
Is that too difficult for you to understand?
[Ed.: Math was banned in 2010, and Math's comments are now automatically held in moderation. Math has recently returned to comment on this post, and I will release them as I see fit.]
Obama’s birth certificate was filed on August 8th, 1961.
The only difference between Ike and Obama is that Obama certificate was filed a few days after he was born, and Ike’s was filed 50+ years later because they never bothered with it when he was born.
Your only argument here is that it just happens that Ike filed his certificate just before running for President whereas Obama’s was filed when he was born.
Apples and oranges.
First, in regards to Obama’s “Date Filed By Registrar”, read this.
Second, the sole reason Eisenhowed needed a birth certificate in 1952 was to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States. The very reason that birth certificate was filed was to prove his eligibility. Let’s see Obama authorize the release of his vital records from the State of Hawaii directly to members of Congress.
It shouldn’t be a big deal to so.
… Unless Soetoro/Obama has something to hide …
How do you know he hasn’t done that already? Do you know of a single member of Congress that requested it from the State of Hawaii? And more importantly, do you know of a single member of Congress who requested it but was denied access?
Yes itooktheredpill, Math is Despee666 as seen in comments on Mario’s blog.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/03/president-dwight-eisenhower-had-to-file.html
Quite the detective there DABIG. I copy pasted my comment. Plus despe666 is part of my email that Pill has known ever since my first post here.
All requests to obtain a copies of Obama’s vital records from the State of Hawaii have been denied. If Obama had authorized their release, these requests would not have been denied.
A member of Congress has promised me, to my face, that they will request Obama’s vital records from the State of Hawaii. I am awaiting the outcome.
Yes, Math, I have known for some time that despe666 is part of your email address, and that you comment from Canada. But DABIG did not, and I appreciate DABIG’s sharing of that link. I had already commented there at Mario’s blog, but had been back yet to see other comments. It’s interesting that you copy-pasted the same comment here as there.
It’s also interesting that you have an over-active interest in this issue, given that you are not even a U.S. citizen.
Did a member of Congress officially request a copy and was denied? I think we would have heard about it if it happened don’t you think?
I suppose he told you what you wanted to hear, otherwise I doubt he would have heard the end of it. A politician lied. More shocking news at 11.
I made absolutely no attempt at hiding this, and I thought it was quite obvious. You linked to Apuzzo’s blog for your readers to see, and you would have been back there sooner or later.
I don’t think you’re in any position to criticize anyone copy-pasting posts or comments.
This is purely for entertainment at this point. Everybody that matters and that could make a difference (judges, members of Congress, etc) thinks that Obama is eligible and that anybody who claims otherwise is nuts.
Unlike you I have no illusion that what I’m writing will have absolutely no incidence on anything, and I just do it for fun.
It’s quite telling that you fail to grasp how someone foreign to the US could possibly care about what happens there. Does that mean you don’t care about anything that happens outside of the US?
Math,
The point of this thread was to prove that Whoopi’s claim of racism was demonstrably false. Pointing out that Ike had to file his BC and provide proof of eligibility to hold the office did just that.
If I am wrong in stating that, then out host will correct me on it.
In claiming “racism” and being subsequently proven false on the matter, it also showed Whoopi’s true colors.
The only thing I corrected was the spelling of “our”. :-)
Math,
You were banned last year. You have returned now to this post, and so far I have released your comments from moderation. However, comments like the one you made at 11:47pm last night are why you were banned (after being warned). You come to insult, not to contribute. You call a member of Congress a liar and anyone who thinks Obama is ineligible nuts. You admit that your comments are “purely for entertainment”. I’m not entertained, and you should not expect further comments to be released from moderation unless you have something constructive to contribute.
ITRP,
Soros divested himself of Petrobras back in August of last year. Repeating a false statement like that just allows the left to point out the error and casts doubt on the rest of your post.
John Deaux,
Link, please…
Soros invested in Petrobras shortly before Obama loaned large quantitites of money to them.
Even if Soros later divested himself of Petrobras, he may have done so at a very large profit, thanks to Barack Obama.
HotAir’s coverage of the Trump – Obama birth certificate controversy:
Michelle Malkin’s “coverage” of the Trump – Obama birth certificate controversy… one derogatory sentence in an open thread:
I’m happily “riding the Birther wave”.
:-) :-) :-) SURF’S UP!!!! :-) :-) :-)
Heh…
Now, if they would apply the same level of inquiry to the Soetoro (a.k.a. Obama) birth certificate…
Pawlenty’s a fool to play the question/situation this way….
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/29/pawlenty-obama-was-born-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/
“Does that mean you don’t care about anything that happens outside of the US?”
It’s funny that Math raised this question because, honestly, when I hear about stuff going on outside the US and outside of direct, tangible US interests (or my personal ones), I actually DON’T care much.
I could give two rats’ tails about Libya and I actually don’t wholly agree with US involvement in Libya’s internal struggles. A bout of internal strife in a sand-covered, tin-pot dictatorship is not our problem. The French and British care, but where were they when Libya was doing this stuff in the ’80s? They want us to get involved, but I say we let them pound sand (pun intended). That’s just one example.
With a massive burden of debt and most of our tax dollars being sucked away by welfare hand-outs (55% to be accurate), I’d prefer that bunch of rotten trash walking around DC right now focus on paying down our Federal debt and controlling spending. While Reps share part of the blame for it, the Dems are far more responsible for it due to their vote-buying welfare scams. Or “Safety-Net Programs” as they demand it be called under their imposed Political Correctness dogma.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/page?id=13248168
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/donald-trump-releases-official-birth-certificate.html
ht_trump_birth_certificate_jp_110329.pdf
Next question:
Since Trump’s mother was born in Scotland, had she become a naturalized U.S. citizen before her son Donald was born?
If yes, then Trump was born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents, and he is a natural born citizen of the United States.
If no, then Trump was born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen father and a British subject mother, and was therefore both a U.S. citizen at birth and a British subject at Birth, but not a natural born U.S. citizen.
If Trump’s mother became a naturalized U.S. citizen before his birth, then he eligible to hold the office of President and Commander-in-Chief. If not, then Trump is just as ineligible as Soetoro (a.k.a. Obama).
Ed Morrissey is usually very on target. On this issue, though, he trusts people and things which he should not.
Let’s break that down:
Wrong. Obama has NEVER released any vital record from Hawaii. His campaign produced a COLB at his campaign headquarters in Chicago, and only showed it to two politically-friendly people from politically-connected Annenberg Political Fact Check. All that was ever “released” publicly was a URL with JPG images… and that is not considered “acceptable documentation” by an Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, which Obama was legally required to complete.
That did not originate with “Hillary Clinton’s oppo researchers”, and appears to have been a plant. Close inspection of the microfiche for contemporaneous birth announcements shatters several myths about them. And newspaper birth announcements are not considered “acceptable documentation” by an I-9 form, which Obama was legally required to complete.
Wrong. The State of Hawaii has NEVER declared that the COLB produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago is accurate and genuine.
So? If the man is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office, it doesn’t matter that “voters chose Obama anyway”! We are not a Democracy (Rule of the Majority). We are a Constitutional Republic (Rule of Law). I’d expect Ed to be a Constitutional Republican, not a Democrat.
Right is right, win or lose. And if forcing Obama to prove his eligibility forces him to either reveal an embarassing truth or withdraw, that is likely to help, not hurt, the Republican candidate.
Don’t give in to the Alinsky tactics, Ed. Donald Trump is supporting and defending the U.S. Constitution, and you are painting that as “a near-parody in an attempt to grab as much of the limelight as possible.”
Supporting and defending the Constitution and the Rule of Law
makes one a “Constitutional Republican”, not a “birther”.
When one combines the legal requirements of:
1) Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution
2) Section 3 of the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution
3) The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986:
… one sees that Obama and Biden are legally required to produce hard copy documentation of not only their eligibility to work in the United states but also their eligibility to hold the office of President.
And Congress has the legal responsibility to ensure that the President and Vice President have qualified.
A Constitutional Republican expects those who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the Rule of Law to ACTUALLY DO SO.
Go ahead, call us crazy.
I say it’s crazy that not a single member of Congress ever inspected a hard copy birth certificate for the pResident and Vice-President.
I say it’s crazy that not a single member of Congress ever questioned whether a son who admitted he was born a British subject because his father was a British subject (and never a U.S. citizen) can be considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States.
I say it’s crazy that the Senate debated whether or not John McCain is a “natural born citizen” of the United States, but they were too timid to debate the same issue with respect to Barry Soetoro (a.k.a Barack Obama).
I say it’s crazy to think that this issue will go away if you continue to mock and label Constitutional Republicans as “birthers”.
President Ronald Reagan was famous for saying:
If you mock verification, you are mocking Ronald Reagan.
Speaking of transparency, versus having something to hide…
Perfect:
Obama Accepts Transparency Award in Closed Press Ceremony
Herman Cain: