The Importance of Jesus Christ’s Resurrection

The importance of Jesus Christ’s resurrection:

And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:17-22

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:6

Adam’s sin brought death. Jesus Christ’s righteousness, sacrifice, and resurrection brought new life to all who confess with their mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in their heart that God has raised Him from the dead.

that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 10:9

Is the USA still predominantly a Christian nation?

Yes…

78% of Americans believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

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36 Responses to The Importance of Jesus Christ’s Resurrection

  1. DCBPrime says:

    As I said on Michelle’s site, I agree that we, the American people, are predominantly Christian. But as long as we have such an irreligious and basically godless man as our President, we are not a Christian nation.

    As our government becomes ever more hostile toward Christianity we become less a Christian nation. Why?

    Because as a free people, the governmental power is in our hands. And when we fail to object to the repressive and oppressive bent against Christianity, we give de facto acceptance to it. (I’m sure there’s a legal term for that, but it escapes my mind at the moment.)

  2. DCBPrime,
    Thank you for your comment. I responded to your comment on Michelle’s site, but here is my response repeated here…

    On April 5th, 2010 at 1:49 pm, dcbprime said:

    I agree with you that we, Americans, are a Christian people; but in Obama’s hands we are not a Christian nation.

    Given what Obama has said about salvation, it’s pretty clear that his faith is the Socialist Gospel, not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Still, his false faith does not mean that we are not a Christian nation. It just means many Christians did not heed the advice of the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and we are now paying the consequences of their poor judgement:

    “Providence [God] has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

    - John Jay, First Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court

  3. And here was my reply to FirstSkirt…

    On April 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    “If you deny my Father before men, I will deny you in Heaven.” Probably didn’t quote that exactly right, but woe to the fool who denies Christ! He is risen! He is risen indeed!
    Bless all you posters here and thanks for letting me get my two cents worth in.

    Three. Simple. Words.

    Two Things Obama Won’t Do

  4. skeeter says:

    “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian Nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” John Jay, First Chief Justice of the United States.

    “Only one adequate plan has ever appeared in the world, and that is the Christian dispensation.” Chief Justice, John Jay.

    And that Christian dispensation includes the promise(s) of grace and the resurrection from the dead to eternal life, “that we [Christians] should follow in His [Christ'] footsteps”. Are we still a Christian Nation? I think a poll of the “Tea Partiers” will answer that very well. Has one [poll] been taken yet?

  5. skeeter says:

    sorry for the duplication, we both responded at near the same time

  6. DCBPrime says:

    I think we may be at loggerheads, and it may be a matter of semantics.
    A poll of Tea Party people would reveal what I affirm, that we are a Christian people.

    However, an examination of the anti-Christian media dominance (ie, the way we Christians are portrayed in the news and in “entertainment”) paints a different picture.

    And not only the portrayal of Christians, but look at the increasing prevalence of immorality in our culture, in our country. We are a nation of mocking and jeering sinners, as many posts to your blog will attest. You would not believe how often I as I read posts here and on other blogs that I am reminded of Deuteronomy 32:35 “In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them” and Jonathan Edwards’ sermon “Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God”.

    So, even though I point to President Obama’s false faith as a means of making the point that we are not currently a Christian nation, I know that it goes much deeper — and has been going on a lot longer.

    Founded on Christian principles and doctrines, certainly. And largely populated with those who claim Christ, sure. But the latter is changing, and then working to change the former.

  7. DCBPrime,
    I wouldn’t say that we are at loggerheads (unable to agree).
    I agree with most of what you say.

    Founded on Christian principles and doctrines, certainly. And largely populated with those who claim Christ, sure. But the latter is changing, and then working to change the former.

    We, as a country, allowed a minority of godless leftists to take control of the education system, and the result has been predictable.

    The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.

    - Abraham Lincoln

    We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution.

    -Bill Ayers to Venezuelan Communists

    The most important business in this Nation–or any other nation, for that matter-is raising and training children. If those children have the proper environment at home, and educationally, very, very few of them ever turn out wrong. I don’t think we put enough stress on the necessity of implanting in the child’s mind the moral code under which we live.

    The fundamental basis of this Nation’s law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don’t think we emphasize that enough these days.

    If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.

    -President Harry S. Truman

    Please read what I wrote in the following post:

    De-moral-ization Leads to Totalitarianism

    That post addressed both the problem, and the necessary resolution.

  8. DCBPrime says:

    Thanks, brother.

  9. skeeter says:

    In the 1960s America took a bad turn and we have been going downhill ever since. It was in that decade that America began to decay. Free Love, drugs,Flower Power, drugs,, Flower children, drugs, Make love not war, drugs. Viet Nam, drugs, SDSes and drugs, William Ayers, more drugs. One of the earliest entrees of the 60s was Obama, and more drugs as he grew and learned from his mentors, communism, socialism and more drugs.

    RP is correct in saying “raising or training children is one of the most important businesses” that any nation can invest in. Just take obama as an example. Look at how he was raised and/or trained. A socialist mother, an alcoholic grandfather, a perverted bisexual drug addicted communist mentor by the name of F.M. Davis. Not to mention all his socialist/communist college professors and other associates.

    Proverbs 22:6 states “Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it.”

    The flipside of that is–train up a child in the way HE SHOULD NOT GO and he will go that way too. It is obvious to me that wayward child is now in the process of taking a nation with him on a path to destruction.

  10. Aaron says:

    Skeeter is mostly correct, but the real problems go back farther than just the late ’60s. Let us not forget the irreversible damage wrought upon our healthcare industry by Medicare that was signed into law by Lyndon Johnson in the first half of that decade. Medicare and its battalions of bureaucrats’ arbitrary (low) payouts for services forced the nation’s doctors to charge more to close the gap. Further, public law explicitly forbade clinics from setting different price scales, meaning EVERYONE had to foot the bill left over from Johnson’s nice vote-purchasing scam.

    Let us also not forget what happened in the 1930s when the sinister-wing politicians exploited a common (if unusually large) stock market crash and the following years of economic pain to further their agenda. Social Security has bred more government dependence than any other program yet. Many left-wing politicians have the gall to claim it as “America’s greatest investment”. What they don’t say is that they’re actually referring to the long-term votes they have bought for the amount of taxpayer money they have spent on it. For how many years have the sinister-wingers shouted to elderly audiences about how the opposition “will take away your social security”? The sinister-wing cashes in on that one every election, invariably.

    Before that, the 16th Amendment–which changed the way Senators are sent to the hill–was another political power-grab by the lefties. Senators have no business representing ANY constituents, districts, or other identifiable voting blocs. Their job is to represent their home COUNTRY and its best interests to the UNION. That is why they were chosen by their STATE congresses. They don’t represent the people, they represent the STATE they are from. Representation of the people is what the House of Reps is for.

    Finally, the concept that the US is a democracy is perhaps the worst of all problems with the US. We are NOT a democracy and were never setup to be one. The US is a CONSTITUTIONAL FEDERATION of REPUBLICS:

    “Constitutional” means there is one document (called a constitution) which spells out the powers and limitations of the central government. In the US, it is a “permissive document” meaning that the government which falls under it is permitted only those powers which are spelled out within the constitution.

    “Federation” means there is a central government which has supreme authority WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES of its powers while the majority of governance is left to the states which actually make up the union.

    “Republics” means that every state within the union is a republic, no monarchies, dictatorships, or democracies allowed. It also means that the people hold regular elections to offices within the government and that their voices are filtered through representatives who are elected by constituents and sent to the capital as the voice of that district.

  11. Aaron,

    Thank you for your excellent comment. The only modification I would make is that you are actually talking about the 17th amendment, not the 16th. (Although I support repealling both the 16th and 17th amendments).

    The only part of our Constitutional Republic that was explicitly set up to be elected Democratically by the people is the House of Representatives… “the People’s House”. The only office to which you cannot be appointed, but must be elected democratically, is the office of Representative. Senators can be appointed, and we’ve even had a President who was appointed, not elected (Gerald Ford).

    A relevant prior post…
    Republic, Not Democracy

  12. Aaron says:

    My mistake on that one, it was a typo that I missed in my pre-post, proof-read.

  13. skeeter says:

    Todays problems do go farther back than the 1960s, at least as far back as 1900-1912 beginning with one Eugene Victor Debs, the American disciple of Karl Marx.

    http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1669.html

    By the time FDR became president socialism had already taken root in the democrat(ic?) party, most certainly by the time Lyndon Johnson took over as the leader of the free world. It seems to me that the 1960s was the beginning of the moral decline of America.

  14. skeeter says:

    I intended to add : Even though America is in this moral decline (since the 1960s?), a survey or POLL of the Tea Party would most likely prove that at least Half of America is Christian. Actually I think it would be closer to 75% Christian. I believe we are a Christian nation.

  15. tdr says:

    RP…did you see the program “The Real Face of Jesus?” Now I am not saying we need proof to believe in the ressurection, but I was totally facinated by the study into the shroud. I had no idea it was that thoroughly researched. I was also really intrigued by the comment that why would we have this message now in a time when we could decode it?

    Also, science is coming closer to religion although there is no acknowledgment of this from the scientific community but if you listen to the new speak concerning the universe, there is a real case to be made for heaven.

  16. DCBPrime says:

    I still believe the Shroud to be a hoax. Peter and John didn’t see anything remarkable about the cloths (plural) that had previously been wrapped around Jesus’ body, except that they were still lying there, the one from around his head folded up by itself, apart from the linen. They saw the cloths, and accepted the fact that He was, as Mary had reported to them, not in the tomb.

    To accept the Shroud as bona fide, one also has to make far too many assumptions: that Joseph & Nicodemus had wrapped him just-so, that whatever caused the image transfer to the one cloth didn’t transfer to the other, that one of the disciples gathered that cloth from the tomb, even though no mention of that is made in Scripture, and so on.

    I am shrouded in skepticism.

  17. skeeter says:

    DCBPrime. hello.
    Would you believe Jesus did not arise on easter sunday? Count the number of hours [backward] 72 backwards. There are 24 hours in a day. 3×24= 72. Do you concur?That means Jesus had to arise 72 hours after he was entombed.Otherwise it would not be three days and three nights in the tomb, or in other words Three Days or three twenty four hour periods of time. One hour too many would mean three days and one hour into the fourth day. Or one hour less would mean two days and twenty three hours into the third day.
    All New Testament Days begin and ended when the sun set. God is a God of perfection, when He said Three Days and Three Nights He meant Three full days and three full nights= 72 hours. Jesus was entombed at sunset the day he died. He had to arise the same time of day He was entombed, 72 hours later.
    On the first day of the week when the visitors went to the tomb Jesus was gone. No ifs ands or buts. Meaning Jesus arose on Saturday eve at sunset, 72 hours after He was entombed. Jesus was buried on Wensday eve and arose Saturday eve at sunset.
    There was no Easter Sunday resurrection. There was a Saturday eve resurrection. In fact Easter is not even in the bible. But I will stop at this point. I will only state, there is right and there are those who want to be right. Only God is right. How about another post?

  18. skeeter says:

    Read Luke 11:29-32. And Matthew 12 38-40. . Now determine if this pertained to the resurrection.

    Now Jesus “Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age,…………” Luk3:23.

    “Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”
    But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Matthew 12:38-40.

    Speaking of his resurrection? There is no mention of a resurrection in this entire chapter. Same with Luke 11:29-32, no mention of a resurrection in that entire chapter.

    Jonah was in the belly of the great fish three days and three nights and “For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the son of man will be to this generation.” Luke 11:30.

    What then was the sign? Jonah and Jesus would share two commonalities. One would be in the belly of the fish 3 days and 3nights. One would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights. The second commonality was they both preached repentance. In fact their preaching was a warning. To understand this warning recall the spies Israel sent out to spy out the land and brought back a false report for which they were punished severely.

    Numbers 14:34 “According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, for each day you shall bear your guilt one year, namely forty years, and you shall know My rejection.”

    That was prophetic, the children of Israel wondered forty years in the wilderness because of their distrust in God. Is this how to calculate when other prophesies will be fulfilled? I don’t know.

    What was the sign of the prophet Jonah other than the fish story? What did Jonah preach? “And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day’s walk. Then he cried out and said, “Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!” Jonah 3:4.

    The people of Nineveh did repent at the preaching of Jonah and Nineveh was spared. The unbelievers in Jerusalem, the unbelieving Jews, did not repent at the preaching of Jesus. In AD70, 40 years after Jesus begin to preach to the Jews in AD 30, 40 years after Jesus begin his ministry and begin to preach the Kingdom of God, Jerusalem was destroyed and the Temple burned by the legions of the Roman Army. AD30+AD40 = AD70 [years]. About one million Jews died. However, most of the Christians had already fled from Jerusalem and the invading Romans. Possibly they understood the sign of Jonah?
    You can’t make this stuff up. Jonah lived some 800 years more or less before Christ.

  19. tdr says:

    My question was whether you saw the show, not whether you were a shroud believer. I am not even claiming it to be the burial shroud. It is true however, that human blood is on the shroud mixed with this image. It stated that 285,000 hours (147.5 years, i.e. 2000 working hours per year) have been spent since 1980 trying to determine how the image was made. They still don’t know. The image is 3D information encoded in a 2D format. It is a highly complex encoded image not easily created and certainly almost impossible to create at a time when no such technology was available to create it. It is only today with the computer imaging available that the image could be decoded into a three dimensional form. I thought the analysis was pretty powerful especially if you were a skeptic.

  20. tdr,

    I apologize for the delay in responding to your question…

    RP…did you see the program “The Real Face of Jesus?”

    No, I have not seen it. In fact, I had not heard of it until you mentioned it, so thank you for bringing it up. I “Bing’ed it”, (I prefer Bing over Google) and found the following History channel page: http://www.history.com/shows/the-real-face-of-jesus
    I will look into it…
    —————

    Now I am not saying we need proof to believe in the ressurection, but I was totally facinated by the study into the shroud. I had no idea it was that thoroughly researched.

    I am aware of the shroud and I am generally aware of some of the study of it in the past, but I was not aware of more recent study.

    I was also really intrigued by the comment that why would we have this message now in a time when we could decode it?

    That comment makes me think of the Bible Code… similar mysteries and codes that we have become aware of in the age of computer technology, but we don’t fully understand.

    Also, science is coming closer to religion although there is no acknowledgment of this from the scientific community

    As to science coming closer to religion, science itself never really left Christianity… rather certain people who call themselves scientists have left the practice of science as they cling to anti-Christian belief systems, and shun Christians in the scientific community. Many of the significant scientific discoveries throughout history have been made by Christians. And much of what is called “science” today is not really science according to the Scientific method.

    but if you listen to the new speak concerning the universe, there is a real case to be made for heaven.

    I have thought for a while that God lives in more dimensions than we do, and that the Bible gives clues to this. (See my 2008 post: Thinking Outside the Box) I am no expert in modern String theory, but as I understand it, it strongly suggests that spacetime has eleven dimensions. There is much that we cannot see and barely comprehend.

    There is a God, and we are not Him. But He gave us the right to become children of God.

  21. 285,000 hours … have been spent since 1980 trying to determine how the image was made. They still don’t know. The image is 3D information encoded in a 2D format. It is a highly complex encoded image not easily created and certainly almost impossible to create at a time when no such technology was available to create it.

    Fascinating, isn’t it? I haven’t watched the program yet, but If they not know how the image was made, I assume that they probably could not create a similar image today, even with all of the technology they have available to them. So it really does beg the question of how the original image was made.

    Regardless of whether or not the shroud is actually Jesus’ burial shroud, it is fascinating in its own right.

  22. DCBPrime says:

    Skeeter,
    I think you are stretching things a bit when you insert the interpretation that the sign of Jonah was exactly 72 hours, no more, no fewer. We are not given the number of hours in the Scripture, so we only have that number out of conjecture. What we DO have, though, is several times Jesus saying that he would rise “on the third day.” That coincides well with the “three days and three nights”, when you understand the original concept of a day being “evening, then morning”.

    That Mary and the other women arrived at the tomb early on the first day of the week (aka Sunday) is hardly up for dispute, so what we have is an unknown approximate time for the resurrection. However, there were persons present when Christ arose from the dead: the Roman soldiers. The account in Matthew seems to indicate that the stone was rolled away pretty near the time that Mary and the other women arrived in the garden — at about dawn.

    Reckoning backwards from there, as you did, gives three whole evening periods and two whole daylight periods, and on the *third* day of being dead, the first day of the week (Sunday), perhaps around dawn, He rose. That would have been the 17th of Nisan, on the Jewish calendar. (Nisan used to be called Abib.) The 17th of Nisan starting at sunset Saturday. Cascading that backward counting, the 16th of Nisan would have started at sundown Friday, a regular Jewish weekly Sabbath, and the 15th of Nisan, the Special Sabbath for the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread would have started at sundown Thursday. That gives us Thursday afternoon, Nisan 14th, as the day that Christ was crucified. The 14th of Nisan is the day of Passover, and the lambs were sacrificed at the going down of the sun.

    You don’t need to tally out 72 exact hours, friend, you just need to see what the Scriptures say, and examine them with an eagerness like that of the Bereans.

  23. DCBPrime says:

    tdr,

    I recall watching a show about ten years ago, I think it was on the History Channel, that purported to reveal “the real face of Jesus”, and while they discussed the Shroud a bit, they put a greater focus on using anthropological forensic techniques on a skull they found that dated back to the time of Christ. (Why they thought that the face the constructed from a random and anonymous skull could be the face of One who has risen from the grave and ascended up to Heaven is beyond explanation, though…)

    But doing a brief search on this new version of the Shroud “extrapolation”, what they are producing is no better than an artist’s rendition (ie, assumptions) of how the Shroud image might be converted into a 3D model, also on the assumption that it is “3D information encoded in a 2D format.” As an engineer, I say Hogwash. I do deal with converting 2D and 3D entities, and since they have no actual cadaver to compare their image against, their imagery is no better than imagination.

    285,000 hours and counting? Of course! These people know that once they “figure it out” then there’s no more money going to their project. The longer the Shroud remains “a mystery,” the longer it can be used — as you all know from politics, Follow The Money.

  24. tdr says:

    DCBPrime…I have no idea what you are talking about…I too am an engineer and I found it to be highly technical.

    They took the shroud of Turin and had one week in 1980 to evaluate it. They had permission from pope John Paul. They had about 20+ scientists there all experts in their field. One man started the exploration. He worked for the space program and had taken a photograph of the shroud and placed it under a special copier that was used to create 3D images of the moon from a 2D image photographed by a special camera and found the face on the shroud jumped out into 3D. This does not happen with an ordinary photograph. Thus started the study. The shroud institute is in colorado springs. The show was to creat the REAL face of Jesus and was done by a computer artist who recreated Lincoln’s face. It is a must see.

    Converting a 3D image from a 2D is not about a piece of fabric wrapped around a face…The 3D converted into 2D is the equivalent of taken a 3D mask and compressing it into 2D space. The “pixels” are such that they are not a replica of a 2D image although it apears to be at first…but a code to a 3D image. Then there is a correction for some draping around the figure.

    The point is not whether you believe it is a real conversion into an exact replica of Jesus, it is that they do not know how the image was formed. It is not a dye, a burn mark, a photograph, a painting, it is not anything known to them. Yet they did find human blood along with the image. Anyone who worked on it was profoundly affected. This was no amatuer activity. I had heard all the earlier theories and was not expecting what I saw. It blew me away.

    The conclusion, which i didnt post above, was that they believe it was created from some type of energy, either radiation or other, basically, there is no explanation. Certainly this is odd, no? And certainly there were more prestigious people working on this than you and me….just saying.

    And YES Redpill, the 11 dimesions intrigues me because we know of 4, the three dimensions and time. 11 less 4 is 7…God’s number. Gives me the chills. Always the same numbers.

  25. DCBPrime says:

    They haven’t examined it since that one week in 1980? Considering the advances in tech in the last 31 years, I find this even more reason to call it bunkum. The flim-flam of the con artist is always kept from further examination, especially while the money continues to roll in.

  26. skeeter says:

    If the birth DATE of Jesus could be proven, which it can’t, would his birth fall on the same date each and every year? If the dates of his death and resurrection can be proven, and it CAN, shouldn’t his death and resurrection fall on the same dates each and every year?

    Easter Sunday—2010— April 4th
    Easter Sunday—2011— April 24th
    Easter Sunday—2012— April 8th
    Easter Sunday—2013— March 31st

    Easter Sunday always falls on the first Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox. The only thing that anyone could be certain of observing on any of those dateS (all different) would be the day called Easter Sunday. That is according to the Gregorian Calendar according to Pope Gregory, the Gregorian Calendar is a Roman Catholic Calendar. It once displayed all the Catholic Church Holidays (Holy days). Easter Sunday is a moveable date but can anyone move or change the actual date Jesus arose from the grave? The Catholic church can.

    You are absolutely correct. There were two sabbaths in the 72 hours Jesus was entombed. These were the First Day of Unleavened Bread and the weekly Seventh Day Sabbath the Hebrews observed. Just bear this in mind, the Sabbath(s) begin at SUNSET. The one most christians are familiar with is the Jewish weekly 7th day Sabbath. It begins at SUNSET FRIDAY and ends at SUNSET Saturday. All Jewish SABBATHS Begin at SUNSET. There are Seven days in the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The Jews are not allowed to work on the First and the Last day of Unleavened Bread. However they are not to eat any thing that contains leaven for the full 7 days.
    All bible days begin and end at sunset.
    Now since you say: ” the Special Sabbath for the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread would have started at sundown Thursday. That gives us Thursday afternoon, Nisan 14th, as the day that Christ was crucified.” You make the case for me. You have proved my point.

    The First Day of Unleavened Bread, A SABBATH, begin at sunset Wensday not thursday afternoon and not Thursday at sunset. Jesus was crucified on the “PREPARATION DAY”, that is to say the preparation for the PASSOVER that would be observed at sunset. Passover is NOT a sabbath day. There is no restriction in the bible against working on the Preparation Day.

    14 Now it was the Preparation Day of the Passover, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Jews, “Behold your King!”
    15 But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!”
    Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?”
    The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!”
    16 Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. Then they took Jesus and led Him away.
    17 And He, bearing His cross, went out to a place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha, 18 where they crucified Him,–’
    John 19:14-18.

    Jesus remained on the cross all day:

    31 “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.” John 19:31.

    In Jewish law it was illegal for a body to hang overnight or on a sabbath day (It would defile the land). The Jews had no qualms having Jesus put on a cross on the Preparation Day because it was not a sabbath.
    Luke 23:50-56 “Now behold, there was a man named Joseph, a council member, a good and just man. 51 He had not consented to their decision and deed. He was from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who himself was also waiting for the kingdom of God. 52 This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53 Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. 54 That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.
    55 And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.” Luke 23:50-56.

    The sabbath drew near, it would begin at sunset. The women noted where Jesus was buried then went and bought their spices and fragrant oils and prepared them but they had to rest the following day according to the commandment. They could not work on that high sabbath, meaning they had to prepare their spices and fragrant oils on a Friday and they could not go back to the tomb Saturday and apply their oils and fragrances because Saturday was also a sabbath.The seventh day sabbath.

    Jesus was crucified on a Wensday and entombed at sunset. He Arose from the tomb after the 3rd day at the same time of day he was buried, at sunset.

    “1 Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them,[a] came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. 2 But they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. 3 Then they went in and did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 And it happened, as they were greatly perplexed about this, that behold, two men stood by them in shining garments. 5 Then, as they were afraid and bowed their faces to the earth, they said to them, “Why do you seek the living among the dead? 6 He is not here, but is risen! Remember how He spoke to you when He was still in Galilee, 7 saying, ‘The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.” Luke 24:1-7.

    You said; “Reckoning backwards from there, as you did, gives three whole evening periods and two whole daylight periods, and on the *third* day of being dead, the first day of the week (Sunday), perhaps around dawn, He rose.”

    Reckoning the way the bible reckons there are three “whole” night time periods and three “whole” day-time periods. And, friend, God doesn’t operate on “perhaps”, around dawn, He rose. He was positively gone at dawn, He had been gone for 12 hours. That is a scientific fact and a fact of nature. In the spring at the time of the vernal equinox night and day are of equal time. Twelve hours daylight and twelve hours of darkness.

  27. DCBPrime says:

    How is it that you separate Preparation Day from the 14th of Nisan, the day that the lambs were to be slain? Your entire case is built upon separating these days (which, Scripturally you can’t) and changing “on the third day” to “after the third day.”

    When looking to the Greek, we see that the guards were set in Matthew 27:64 “UNTIL the third day”, “εως της τριτης ημερας”, and the priests misquoted Jesus by saying “μετα τρεις ημερας” (μετα meaning “after”), and every place where Jesus tells that he will rise ON the third day is “και τη τριτη ημερα”.

    Please notice the different endings of the words for Third “τριτης” & “τρεις” and Day “ημερας”, versus the ending of the words the Lord used. Jesus used the singular form of the words, which indicates that He indeed meant that He would rise the third day, not AFTER the third day or AFTER three days.

    By requiring an exact 72 hours, by declaring that the days and nights *must* be “whole” 12 hour periods, you are adding to the Scripture. If you cease from adding to the Scripture, not only will your argument cease to exist, but you would see that the day of the week upon which our Lord was crucified was a Wednesday afternoon.

    Oh, and we don’t celebrate the DATE of the resurrection as it would be marked on our calendars. We celebrate the fact that He arose on the First day of the week — which is also why the Christian churches meet on Sunday mornings every week. (I’m guessing you’re a Sabbatarian. You make all of the same claims & mistakes that my friends in the United Church of God make.)

  28. skeeter says:

    I suppose you might say I am a sabbatarian since I believe Christ Jesus died for me, and not only me but for the entire world, for the remission of sins. So that now I rest in Christ every day and not simply on saturday or sunday. In Christ I believe every day to be a sabbath.

    28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30). —–Oddly enough he spoke those words as he was working, plucking corn or some sort of grain. ” “1 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.” 12:1.

    I fail to see why sunday would be any better than any other day when it comes to worshipping God/Christ. And really I do not see anywhere in the bible that states we should observe the resurrection.

    Nope. I don’t seperate the day the lamb was killed from anything. The sunset God created does all the seperation that is needed to divide one day from another. I didn’t invent that. I guesse God created that division of time when He said “So the evening and the morning were the first day.” Gen.1:5. And there again He was talking about night and day. However there are a lot of people who do not really think He really meant that either. LOL! But you seem to think you can seperate Thursday afternoon from the rest of the first day of the unleavened bread sabbath when that sabbath begin at sunset Wensday.

    ” 15th of Nisan, the Special Sabbath for the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread would have started at sundown Thursday. That gives us Thursday afternoon, Nisan 14th, as the day that Christ was crucified.”

    Then you add: ” but you would see that the day of the week upon which our Lord was crucified was a Wednesday afternoon.”

    The Jewish sabbath (first day of unleavened bread) begin at sunset when Wensday ended and Thursday begin. When the sun went out of sight over the horizon at the close of Wensday that is when Thursday begin. So I suppose if you should be Jewish and lived on the east side of a mountain and—————————————– LOL!!!!!! You would always have short sabbaths??????? you think? Only joking. Seems God always had a soft heart when it came to sevens and sabbaths so it seems only natural He would have arisen on that day . Maybe not.

    It has been said “history is not a science but a continuing investigation into the past; a person’s conclusion is based on their own bias.”

    No truer, is truer a word?, were ever spoken.

  29. DCBPrime says:

    Obviously I mistyped last night, at the end of a long workday, eager to get home. I hope you’ll forgive me for that obvious error.

    But I thought I had originally made my case quite clearly: The crucifixion would have been on Nisan 14, and Nisan 14 would have started after sundown Wednesday and ended at sundown Thursday. Nisan 14 is the day that the lambs were sacrificed for the Passover meal, which was supposed to be eaten after sundown. Nisan 15, the first day of Unleavened Bread and a special sabbath on its own, would have started after sundown Thursday, and ended at sundown Friday. Sundown Friday (Nisan 16) started the regular sabbath, which ended at sundown Saturday. Nisan 17 started at sundown Saturday, and Nisan 17 was the day the Lord rose from the dead. That would be the third day… 15, 16, 17

    If, as you claim, the first day of Unleavened Bread was Wednesday making it a special sabbath, then there’s a non-sabbath day in there on Thursday after sunset, and all afternoon Friday. Why, then, didn’t the women go to the tomb on THAT day to re-dress and anoint the Lord’s body? Why did they wait until early Sunday morning?

  30. skeeter says:

    DCB
    I am in no way saying Wensday was the first day of Unleavened Bread. I am saying the first day of Unleavened Bread begin 24 hours before Friday begin. Thursday, the sabbath, begin as Wensday ended. Jesus was crucified on Wensday and buried at sunset. Hence, as God said in Genesis 1″So the EVENING and the morning were the first day. Jesus was in the grave one full night and day Thursday, one full night and day Friday, one full night and day Saturday.
    Thursday was a sabbath (1st day unleavened bread) and no work could be done. Friday was not a sabbath and the women bought and prepared their oils and fragrances. Saturday was a sabbath (weekly seventh day sabbath) no work could be done. The women could not get back to the tomb before Sunday. How far is a sabbath’s day’s journey?

    Acts 1:12: “Then they returned to Jerusalem from the Mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a Sabbath day’s journey.” (this is not part of the resurrection but it only shows there were restrictions on what the women could do on a sabbath). Obviously the women lived farther than a sabbath’s day’s journey from the tomb. They could do no work on the sabbath. Jesus was buried at sunset Wensday eve. Whatever the case, the women could not buy and prepare oils and fragrances and then take it to the tomb because it would require WORK.

    Bear with me.
    54 “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.
    55 And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.” Luke 23:54-56.

    Jesus was buried at sunset, in the beginning of the sabbath. The women did not at that time buy and prepare thier oils and spices, not until at least 24 hours later. They could not because it was the sabbath.

    47 “And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses observed where He was laid.” Mark 15:47.
    1 “NOW WHEN THE Sabbath WAS PAST, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome BOUGHT SPICES, that they might come and anoint Him.” Mark 16:1.

    That was on a Friday after the sabbath of the first day of unleavened bread had passed. The women bought and prepared their oils and spices on Friday, the day between the two sabbaths of First Day of Unleavened bread and the weekly Seventh Day Sabbath which was Saturday. Then when that sabbath had passed, Saturday, on the first day of the week, Sunday, the women went to the tomb.

    verse 2 “Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.”
    John 20:1 says it was still dark when they came to the tomb:
    1 “Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.”

    Whether it was dark or light, Jesus was already gone. He had arisen 12 hours prior in the end of the seventh day sabbath, Saturday.

    I am just taking Jesus’ word for it that He would be in the grave THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS.
    DCB— if you respond I will read it. However, I am giving up on my end before the REDPILL CHARGES ME RENT FOR TAKING UP HIS BAND WIDTH. Nice talking with you.

    Jesus was on his way to bring Lazarus back from the dead when he made the following statement:

    9 “Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. 10 But if one walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.” 11 These things He said, and after that He said to them, “Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.”
    John 11:9-11.

    Twelve hours of day and twelve hours of night x 3 = 72 hours.

  31. skeeter says:

    DCB– I almost forgot.

    9[[a]“Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to (K)Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.” Mark 16:9. New American Standard Version. States in the margin, “verse 9 through the rest of this chapter is not found in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and other authorities omit 9 to the end [of chapter].

    9 “Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.” Mark 16:9. New King James Version.” States in the margin, ” Vv, 9-20 are bracketed in NU as not in the original text. They are lacking in Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. Although nearly all other mss. of Mark contain them.

    Scofield Bible: Verses 9-20 are not found in the most ancient manuscripts, Sianaticus and Vaticanus but the passage is quoted by Irenaeus and Hippolytus.”

    “Relatively little is known of the life of Irenaeus. As a boy he had, as he delighted to point out, listened to the sermons of the great bishop and martyr, Polycarp of Smyrna, who was regarded as a disciple of the apostles themselves. Here he came to know, ‘the genuine unadulterated gospel’, to which he remained faithful throughout his life. Perhaps he also accompanied Polycarp on his journey to Rome in connection with the controversy over the date of celebrating Easter (154 CE). Later he went as a missionary to southern Gaul, where he became a presbyter at Lyons. A Catholic Encyclopedia article is online at St. Irenaeus.”

    “Hippolytus (2) Romanus. Though so celebrated in his lifetime, Hippolytus has been but obscurely known to the church of subsequent times. He was at the beginning of the 3rd cent. unquestionably the most learned member of the Roman church, and a man of very considerable literary activity; his works were very numerous, and their circulation spread from Italy to the East, some having been translated into Syriac, Arabic, Armenian, Ethiopic, and perhaps other languages. His name assumes various disguises, as Poltus in the popular memory of Italy, in Egypt as Abulides. There is evidence also that he took a very active part in the affairs of his own church; but there are no contemporary witnesses to inform us concerning his personal history. A century after his death Eusebius evidently knew nothing of him beyond what he could infer from such works of his as had reached him. These works were soon superseded by those of other more able and learned writers. Scarcely one has come down to us without mutilation, and the authenticity of almost every work assigned to him has been disputed. Yet his celebrity survived, and various legends, not always carefully distinguished from the authentic history of the saint, arose. It has been disputed whether Hippolytus was a presbyter or a bishop; and if a bishop, of what see;.”
    Roman Catholics both. It was also The Roman catholic church which produced the Gregorian Calendar and begin the Easter celebration in church on the first sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
    Most the bibles I have read all state Mark 16: 9-20 is none existant in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. I have an idea some catholic priest or bishop wrote his views on both Easter and Baptism and it somehow gained entry into the bible and our versions today.

    But no. In the literal sense of the word I am not a Sabbatarian. Just a christian.

  32. Birfer says:

    Did christ rise from the dead? personally I am not convinced he is really dead until I see the long form death certificate.

  33. skeeter says:

    He isn’t dead. Jewish People of the Old Testament never celebrated birthsays, which is one reason you will never know his birth date. Neither did the Jewish Christians of the New Testament celebrate birth days. Josephus the Jewish historian also noted the same.
    Against Apion, Book II chpt. 26. The Hebrews kept geneaological records that are recorded in the bible and these are records of the most outstanding people. Just like in our history books, only the outstanding, famous and infamous are recorded. Which is why the calculation of Bishop Ussher’s 4004BC for the year of creation is so far off. He added up all the years according to the biblical geneaologies from Adam to Christ and reckoned 4004 years. I am sure the geneaologies of the unimportant people who are not named number into the hundreds of thousands. Meaning Adam could have lived 50,000-60,000 years ago??? Who knows?

    The Muslims do not celebrate birth dates either. Maybe that is one of the reasons Obama has had difficulty producing a BC???

  34. DCBPrime says:

    Skeeter,

    I think I see where we view Luke 23:55 & 56 differently.

    Irenaeus is pretty well known as being a disciple of Polycarp, and Polycarp was a disciple of John. These guys didn’t cotton to the Roman practice of celebrating the resurrection on Sunday every year, because that’s not the way John, the disciple whom Jesus loved, taught them. If Irenaeus quotes that passage from Mark, it may be more legitimate than you believe. Irenaeus was no Catholic, despite their attempts to ‘claim’ him so.

    (I also think Ussher’s numbers are closer than you are willing to accept, but that would be a further tangent, like the Shroud of Turin hoax.)

    I think you are right about RedPill’s graciousness with the bandwidth here. Can we sufficiently agree that we both say that Christ was crucified on Nisan 14? And that because He bore our sins and rose again we have life in Him?

  35. skeeter says:

    DCBP: In the century 200AD +- there were heads of church in Rome whoes congregations were calling them “papa” meaning poppa or father. Actually Emp. Constantine first declared Christianity to be the official relegion of Rome in or about AD319-325. At which time he appointed himself boh head of church and the empire. He was the first official “Pope” of the Roman church. He declared he has succeeded from an unbroken chain of apostles, in particular, Peter. From that point in history going forward the Roman Empire became the “Holy Roman Empire” and the church in Rome came to be called the “Holy Roman Catholic Church”. Catholic merely means “Universal” or “World Church”. I know you know this already.
    Peter the apostle being dead 200+ years before Constantine.
    As for Bishop Ussher
    There is a living tree with a root system that dates to BC 7,550+- a few years. This would predate Ussher’s date for creation by almost 4,000 years.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080414-oldest-tree.html

    Also, the Septuagent (Greek version of OT) puts 2,242 years between Adam and the flood. The Samaritan version puts 1,307 years between Adam and the flood. Mainly because of the discrepencies in the geneaological accounts of the two versions. The Hebrew OT, Hebrew Bible, OT of the Protestant Bible, puts 1,656 from Adam to the flood. All I can say is, from the flood to adam was somewhere in eternity past.

    However, I do believe, the biblical Adam lived approximately 30,000 years ago– But I can’t prove that. But think on this. Up to that point in time there were no cities or other indications of civilizations. Why? Because, quote, “There is a spirit in man” (found in Job) and “The inspiration of the Almighty gives him (or them) understanding” end quote.
    When did God, the Almighty, put the spirit of man in man? Was it not when God made man in His image? I think so. But that would imply there were men (humans) on earth before Adam.Wouldn’t it?

    Nisan 14? It has been years since I studied this subject. I will say the very first Passover begin when the Children of Israel killed the lamb and put the blood of the lamb on their door-posts in order the death angel would pass over their first born in Egypt. Then the next morning they departed before the women had time to prepare their bread dough with leaven. Hence, Unleavened Bread was preceded by Passover. This was the beginning of the Exodus. This is always a safe way to unravel the two events. Bearing in mind that by New Testament times the Pharisees and Scribes had altered many of the commandments of God and/or the Angels who spoke for God. The scribes and Pharisees skirted God’s law(s) in every way imaginable and even invented several hundreds of laws of their own called the “Talmudic Laws”. These were the oral laws which the scribes and pharisees say “God whspered in the ears of Moses”.
    DCBP: check out Matthew 23:26-35., you will see Abel was a prophet. You know Cain killed him. Jesus traces the lineage of the Scribes and Pharisees all the way back to Cain, the worlds first murderer. The Scribes and Pharisees were not Jews. They were the sons (descendents) of Cain, of the seed of the serpent.

    If you say Jesus was crucified on Nisan 14 I believe you honestly believe that and you should go with that but I have to look again even though I “think” you are correct. I will certainly check it out.

  36. 77% Believe Jesus Rose From the Dead

    The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

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