On March 13th, 2010 at 11:14 pm, mattm said:
Kinda OT
A new Coffee Party has formed, by a fmr. Obama campaign staffer or vol. They claim the are for small gov’t/less taxes but discussed climate change/crisis, medicare for all and reducing the military budget. Apparently CNN was covering it. They literally has focus groups at coffee shops with groups of 15-20 people.
On March 14th, 2010 at 10:27 am, granite said:
Anyone else heard about the “coffee party” movement?
Or, am I late to the game, an bringing up something old?
http://hotair.com/?s=%22coffee+party%22
We’ve known about it for a few weeks.
It’s ASTROTURF, and their numbers are laughable.
Interesting name though,
Coffee Party USA
as in
CPUSA
as in
Communist Party USA (cpusa.org)
And oh, did you know that Obama is a “teabagger”?
But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.
…except that the Tea Parties I’ve attended were about restoring our Constiutional Republic, not about bringing “an Empire to its knees”.
It sounds like Obama shares his “journey” with Marist Revolutionary “fellow travellers”, not with those who want a Constitutional Republic.
Obama on “the Final March for Reform”
Note the purple tie (shout-out to SEIU).
Hold Obama and the other Democrats accountable for what they themselves have said:
Obama ‘American Agenda’ Flashback: Dems Should Not Pass Healthcare With a 50-Plus-1 Strategy
Obama & Dems in ‘05: 51 Vote ‘Nuclear Option’ Is ‘Arrogant’ Power Grab Against the Founders’ Intent
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TO: Moderate House Democrats
SUBJECT: How to take the High Ground
All you have to do is say that you are going to hold President Obama accountable to what he himself said:
Change to Win Convention 9/25/07
The bottom line is that our healthcare plans are similar, the question once again is, who can get it done? Who can build a movement for change? This is an area where we’re going to have to have a 60% majority in the Senate and the House in order to actually get a bill to my desk. We’re going to have to have a majority to get a bill to my desk. That is not just a fifty plus one majority.
Obama Interview with the Concord Monitor 10/9/07
You’ve got to break out of what I call the sort of fifty plus one pattern of presidential politics. Maybe you eke out a victory of fifty plus one. Then you can’t govern. You know, you get Air Force One, there are a lot of nice perks, but you can’t deliver on healthcare. We are not going to pass universal health care with a fifty plus one strategy.
Center for American Progress Conference 7/12/06
Those big-ticket items: fixing our health care system. You know, one of the arguments that sometimes I get with my fellow progressives, and some of these have flashed up in the blog communities on occasion, is this notion that we should function sort of like Karl Rove where we identify our core base, we throw ’em red meat, we get a fifty plus one victory. See, Karl Rove doesn’t need a broad consensus because he doesn’t believe in government. If we want to transform the country, though, that requires a sizeable majority.
If Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are not willing to work with you and Republicans to create a bill that can pass BOTH houses of Congress with at least 60% of the vote, then the “Healthcare Reform” bill WON’T PASS.
There is no excuse for Obama, Pelosi, and SEIU to be putting extreme pressure on you to achieve a “50 plus 1″ outcome that Obama himself said means “you can’t govern”.
Remind him of what he said, and hold him accountable to what he said!
You’ve got to break out of what I call the sort of fifty plus one pattern of presidential politics. Maybe you eke out a victory of fifty plus one. Then you can’t govern. You know, you get Air Force One, there are a lot of nice perks, but you can’t deliver on healthcare. We are not going to pass universal health care with a fifty plus one strategy.
The Democratic Socialists want to use the “Byrd rule” to pass “Healthcare Reform” with only 50 votes (rather than 60) in the Senate.
The “dirty little secret” is that Senator Byrd HIMSELF stopped President Clinton from using reconcilation to pass Hillarycare!
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UPDATE:
I’ve been think ing about how Nancy Pelosi played a significant role in the creation of the Tea Party movement.
Remember this?
“How many of you remember the Boston Tea Party?”
Republican Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona asked the raucous crowd. “This is the Boston Tea Party!”Pelosi reportedly moves to shut down House revolt
By Michelle Malkin • August 1, 2008 04:03 PM
In my opinion, it began there…
Over the next 5 weeks, as Pelosi toured the country on her book tour, people protested in cities around the country, and many (myself included) travelled to Washington, D.C. to take part in the revolt that went on on a daily basis on the floor of the House of Representatives.
I Took The Red Pill 
What is it with the purple ties? On Fox News Sunday yesterday, the democrats wore purple ties and Gibbs had a purple plastic ring on his right wrist.
Purple is the color of the SEIU thugs.
Thank you for the reply. SEIU’s website has “SEIU” in purple.
I also did a little looking. There is a purple bus traveling around the country to highlight people’s problems with healthcare. see votehealthcare.org
Probably an extension of Organizing for America.
kj
Does purple indicate vanity, arrogance, or both?
Alexander the Great wore purple, sat beneath purple canopies, and walked on purple carpets. Cleopatra’s flagship had purple sails. Roman senators in the days of the republic wore togas edged in purple as a symbol of royalty. The Roman Emperor Caligula covered his favorite horse with purple, in order to display his wealth.
[19] Most assuredly, the emperors of all periods did not want the undeserving to wear the royal color. When Nero observed a woman in purple at one of his recitals, he stripped her of her clothes and then of possessions. He even had the animals that appeared in the arena dyed purple.
[20] In the Bible, Belshazzar and Mordecai were honored with purple robes, a clear sign of favor. After the seat of the Roman Empire moved to Byzantium, the empresses, such as Zoe, Constantine VII’s mother, gave birth in a chamber lined with purple. Thus, their children were called porphyrogenitos, or “born to (in) the purple.”(Dianne C. Bonacci).
If Obama and the democrat socialist party is the coffee party then that is reason enough for me to cut back on my coffee drinking. I needed an excuse to do that and this is it.
Shaking hands with Lipton
I don’t mean to shift subject, but I did a little research into one aspect of healthcare reform that the sinister-wingers have been flapping their gums about for a very long time.
Pre-existing Conditions.
Myth: pre-existing conditions affect millions of Americans
Truth: they have a minor impact on a VERY SMALL segment of the American population.
Myth: Insurers will deny you coverage if you have a Pre-existing condition.
Truth: You are only denied coverage for costs from THAT SPECIFIC CONDITION. Your coverage still applies to everything else.
Myth: Denying coverage for preexisting conditions is a scummy and underhanded form of insurance profiteering.
Truth: Attempting to get insurance to pay for treatment of preexisting conditions is insurance fraud.
I only wish that the American People knew more about this so they wouldn’t buy into the scummy tactics used by the sinister-wing politicians, commentators, and journalists.
Aaron:
This link is a good site to visit regarding “pre-existing conditions” and insurance.
http://healthinsurance.about.com/od/healthinsurancebasics/a/preexisting_conditions_overview.htm
When I applied for a supplement for medicare I had an exclusion for a pre-existing condition (arteriosclerosis, hardening of the arteries) which was discovered when I was hospitalized for a heart attack. The exclusion period was either 90 days or six (6) months, can’t remember now. After the exclusion period I was fully covered by my supplement insurance for the existing condition.
This lying congress knows full well they have already enacted laws pertaining to that very practice of discriminating against pre-existing conditions (exclusions and duration depending on the state and insurance company).
Of course there are some who would try to insure a house that has already burned and/or a leg that is already broken. LOL!
I should explain. When I applied for the supplement insurance, it was about a year after I had the heart attack and the discovery of the heart disease. The exclusion period of 3 or 9 months for a pre-existing condition (can’t remember which) was well past the waiting period for coverage of that pre-existing condition. I was fully covered as soon as the insurance company accepted my application, which was as soon as they received my application.
Anything medicare will accept, my supplement will accept. Medicare is supposed to pay 80% and I am liable for 20% (picked up by my supplement), but medicare does not always pay 80% of the medical expense. Sometimes they will pay only a fraction of that, according to their prefigured or pre-calculated medical costs. IE what they will allow the doctors or hospitals to charge. Sometimes, for instance, medicare will pay only $200 of a $1,000 medical bill because they think $200 is a fair price. That means my supplement has to pick up the remaining 80% or $800. Now just think what that will mean when the government becomes even more involved and cuts doctors and hospital costs even more. My supplement will assuredly have to increase their prices or go out of business altogether. This is why the Republicans are calling Obama’s pre-determined ideas of cost control “Death Panels”. Obama’s and the Dems command to the elderly with cancer will be — go home, take and aspirin and vote for Obama and the democrat Socialist Party.
Oh yes, I am all over the internet with this, because all I have is time on my hands and the memory of WWII, the Great Depression, and the type of people who brought it all about. I also use “Startpage” for my search engine. LOL!
QUIZ: Who said it —
Democratic leaders or Communist Party USA?
Barack sees capitalist Republicans as the evil “empire striking back” against him and other Democratic Socialists.
Senator Robert Byrd on the Use of Reconciliation