On March 13th, 2010 at 11:14 pm, mattm said:
Kinda OT
A new Coffee Party has formed, by a fmr. Obama campaign staffer or vol. They claim the are for small gov’t/less taxes but discussed climate change/crisis, medicare for all and reducing the military budget. Apparently CNN was covering it. They literally has focus groups at coffee shops with groups of 15-20 people.
On March 14th, 2010 at 10:27 am, granite said:
Anyone else heard about the “coffee party” movement?
Or, am I late to the game, an bringing up something old?
http://hotair.com/?s=%22coffee+party%22
We’ve known about it for a few weeks.
It’s ASTROTURF, and their numbers are laughable.
Interesting name though,
Coffee Party USA
as in
CPUSA
as in
Communist Party USA (cpusa.org)
And oh, did you know that Obama is a “teabagger”?
But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.
…except that the Tea Parties I’ve attended were about restoring our Constiutional Republic, not about bringing “an Empire to its knees”.
It sounds like Obama shares his “journey” with Marist Revolutionary “fellow travellers”, not with those who want a Constitutional Republic.
Obama on “the Final March for Reform”
Note the purple tie (shout-out to SEIU).
Hold Obama and the other Democrats accountable for what they themselves have said:
Obama ‘American Agenda’ Flashback: Dems Should Not Pass Healthcare With a 50-Plus-1 Strategy
Obama & Dems in ‘05: 51 Vote ‘Nuclear Option’ Is ‘Arrogant’ Power Grab Against the Founders’ Intent
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TO: Moderate House Democrats
SUBJECT: How to take the High Ground
All you have to do is say that you are going to hold President Obama accountable to what he himself said:
Change to Win Convention 9/25/07
The bottom line is that our healthcare plans are similar, the question once again is, who can get it done? Who can build a movement for change? This is an area where we’re going to have to have a 60% majority in the Senate and the House in order to actually get a bill to my desk. We’re going to have to have a majority to get a bill to my desk. That is not just a fifty plus one majority.
Obama Interview with the Concord Monitor 10/9/07
You’ve got to break out of what I call the sort of fifty plus one pattern of presidential politics. Maybe you eke out a victory of fifty plus one. Then you can’t govern. You know, you get Air Force One, there are a lot of nice perks, but you can’t deliver on healthcare. We are not going to pass universal health care with a fifty plus one strategy.
Center for American Progress Conference 7/12/06
Those big-ticket items: fixing our health care system. You know, one of the arguments that sometimes I get with my fellow progressives, and some of these have flashed up in the blog communities on occasion, is this notion that we should function sort of like Karl Rove where we identify our core base, we throw ’em red meat, we get a fifty plus one victory. See, Karl Rove doesn’t need a broad consensus because he doesn’t believe in government. If we want to transform the country, though, that requires a sizeable majority.
If Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are not willing to work with you and Republicans to create a bill that can pass BOTH houses of Congress with at least 60% of the vote, then the “Healthcare Reform” bill WON’T PASS.
There is no excuse for Obama, Pelosi, and SEIU to be putting extreme pressure on you to achieve a “50 plus 1″ outcome that Obama himself said means “you can’t govern”.
Remind him of what he said, and hold him accountable to what he said!
You’ve got to break out of what I call the sort of fifty plus one pattern of presidential politics. Maybe you eke out a victory of fifty plus one. Then you can’t govern. You know, you get Air Force One, there are a lot of nice perks, but you can’t deliver on healthcare. We are not going to pass universal health care with a fifty plus one strategy.
The Democratic Socialists want to use the “Byrd rule” to pass “Healthcare Reform” with only 50 votes (rather than 60) in the Senate.
The “dirty little secret” is that Senator Byrd HIMSELF stopped President Clinton from using reconcilation to pass Hillarycare!
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UPDATE:
I’ve been think ing about how Nancy Pelosi played a significant role in the creation of the Tea Party movement.
Remember this?
“How many of you remember the Boston Tea Party?”
Republican Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona asked the raucous crowd. “This is the Boston Tea Party!”
Pelosi reportedly moves to shut down House revolt
By Michelle Malkin • August 1, 2008 04:03 PM
In my opinion, it began there…
Over the next 5 weeks, as Pelosi toured the country on her book tour, people protested in cities around the country, and many (myself included) travelled to Washington, D.C. to take part in the revolt that went on on a daily basis on the floor of the House of Representatives.